“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So how could having many friends or not matter much?

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I see time and agaon in sosuave that you should have a social life, go out with friends, and all. I don't see how it helps you get a gf (unless your friend has a sister)? I can't connect with guys like friends emotionally seem to bond. So I don't hang out with guys. Because I don't see the point, and I view it as a waste of time. In fact at lunch in the office cafeteria if I go alone and I find a girl eating alone(which itself is a very rare thing in our office) I would go & join her. But if I go with my teammates then I would basically waste that rare opportunity. Just an example. Are there occasions where being with a group would help? I do understand that being in a herd kind of gives an ego boost as compared to entering a bar alone and feeling creepy. But I could live without that ego boost coz I don't have to get comfortable with guys. The need just doesn't exist in me.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If you live for PU. Then yes, Friends can be detrimental.

Co-workers for the most part are acquaintances. the term "Friends" has become very diluted and just about anybody is a friend now. Hell, i'm your "friend" just cuz i'm replying to you and being polite.

If i look at it from my perspective, i have maybe 2 or 3 friends. These are close people i can share just about anything with and i know they aren't going to backstab me for a stupid reason.

Here's a pop culture version of what i'm saying
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Friend
(PS. The chick on the left in the picture they show is hawt.)

If you look at me when i'm outside, i'm friendly with everybody. That doesn't make me their "friend" though. That makes me a polite acquaintance.

Having real friends means you have someone else you can chill with on a regular basis, and don't have to worry about getting duct taped to the floor if you get too trashed.

To modify a quote.

"An acquaintance will wonder WTF you did to end up in jail and/or laugh,
A friend might bail you out if you've been good to them,
A real friend will either bail you out, or be sitting across from you saying 'We ****ed up/that was awesome."


To Me, Friends are something that enriches my life more so than just myself.
 
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Aragon034 said:
If you live for PU. Then yes, Friends can be detrimental.
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Yes I live for that only. The only use I can see is to approach 2 girls along with another guy if you feel uncomfortable approaching alone.
And male elephants don't hang out with another male. Female elephants do. Because they need the comfort of their group.
 

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AreYouSingleFemale said:
Yes I live for that only. The only use I can see is to approach 2 girls along with another guy if you feel uncomfortable approaching alone.
And male elephants don't hang out with another male. Female elephants do. Because they need the comfort of their group.
Well then, use your male friends/aquaintances to expand your social circle, meet people they know, chill with them once or twice and see what kind of people they hang out with. all with the purpose of meeting new women.

Or don't. It's up to you. I just tell you what i see and do.
 

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Wtf. Are you guys serious?

Apart from the companionship of having friends, which is an experience like no other, women RESPOND to social value.

If you have no friends, she'll wonder why? Are you a loner? A loser? Perhaps there are some negative traits about you?

Having lots of friends means you're busy, you're well liked, you're a cool person to hang around with. Especially if you have lots of female friends. It's pretty much doing half the work of "getting to know you" for them.

Having lots of friends increases your social value, which increases your value in a womans eyes.

Get some friends.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Lust said:
Wtf. Are you guys serious?

Apart from the companionship of having friends, which is an experience like no other, women RESPOND to social value.

If you have no friends, she'll wonder why? Are you a loner? A loser? Perhaps there are some negative traits about you?

Having lots of friends means you're busy, you're well liked, you're a cool person to hang around with. Especially if you have lots of female friends. It's pretty much doing half the work of "getting to know you" for them.

Having lots of friends increases your social value, which increases your value in a womans eyes.

Get some friends.
I don't oppose this, in fact i endorse it. Personally though i've had alot of problems with guys trying to start **** with me or just being fullblown backstabbers or storytellers.

When you walk into work and the entire place is asking you "Did you really **** *Girl* in the ass with no lube?" or "I heard you were completely ****faced the other night, you ended up 2 towns over?" You start to lose respect for people.

My original core group of highschool friends (minus one) were actually getting pissed off that i started to improve myself. At the time, i was a geek like them, high grades, loved computers/3dsMax/movies/military stuff just like them. But when i started manning up and actually talking to girls, getting over my AFC fears so to speak, they started acting very negatively towards me.

phrases like "Are you kidding? you'll never get her." or "What? you think you're gonna **** her?" or my favorite "I already tried, she said she doesn't date, So what chance do you think you have?"

Alot of other **** as well, dissing my new look, my new interests (which were my true interests), and basically trying to make me a pariah in their eyes.

One in particular. when i was telling these guys that there was a party that weekend and they should show up, he started outright insulting me saying i was a poser, a fake, blah blah blah. I told him if that's what he thought that so be it, but he's still welcome to the party (i was still pretty niave)

So i guess you could say i'm a bit bitter about the term friends, but by no means am i saying that having alot of friends isn't beneficial. my 3 REAL friends are always there for me and vice versa. My 'friends' whom i don't hold in the same regard, are still very friendly with me and i go out with them as well on occasion.
 

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Do you have to have an entourage of friends with you to pick up women? Is it possible to pick up women if you are by yourself. I'm afraid to approach women because i don't have many friends.
 

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AreYouSingleFemale said:
Aragon034 said:
If you live for PU. Then yes, Friends can be detrimental.
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Yes I live for that only. The only use I can see is to approach 2 girls along with another guy if you feel uncomfortable approaching alone.
And male elephants don't hang out with another male. Female elephants do. Because they need the comfort of their group.
Humans arent elephants, nor do they behave in the same social manner. Comparing animals, which have a more appearent hierarchy, hence more alpha male behavior. You have to look at people in the context of the society we live. Honestly, hanging out with a bunch of girls for a prolonged time is pretty annoying. Having girl friends is alright but girl talk is annoying as well. I wish i had more guy friends to go out with and shoot the sh*t with. I have a girl, but when i didnt i never had a problem getting girls. I seem to know a lot more girls than dudes, unfortunately. If i wanna get a girl all i have to do is walk in public and find something i like; its much harder to develop a friendship with dudes.
 

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Aragorn, I went through a similar thing with what I classed my "friends" in the past. These people weren't real friends at all just people that I hung with because of no other choice.

Comments like you described were constantly made when I changed and improved myself with woman (And even though it was working). "Your a sell out man!" " Why you goin mainstream!" etc etc.

I realized only now how insecure these people are and they take it out over others. It is pathetic really. They prey on the ones that manage to actually be weaker than them in the group, but as soon as you man the fvck up they realize they don't have any power.

Now when they see me out they are nice to me etc, but I know they are secretly jealous of my success and still insecure. :down:

Make some real friends with REAL people and it will be an entirely differen't matter. Don't be bitter about these people.

Sadly "friendships" between insecure people (Much like relationships) are usually heavily, heavily flawed. Make friends with people who have got their sh1t together, and you will see the difference.
 

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bud_2005 said:
Do you have to have an entourage of friends with you to pick up women? Is it possible to pick up women if you are by yourself. I'm afraid to approach women because i don't have many friends.
No you don't. I find it best to go out with one friend wingmanning it. Depends on circumstances for if friends can be useful for picking up women! Sometimes mates can scare off the ladies lol. Only go out with those on lads nights out :p
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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