"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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SO girls approach me what does that mean...and what do I say?

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..So I never ever gone out much before because I thought I looked too young.

So, I started go to some clubs.

And I would sit or loiter around and girls have been coming to me and sit next to me or ask things.

eg..

1. One girl sat with her freind next to me and started talking about the music playing and how it was on at the soccer mathc earlier. I said cool and then she ask me what team I support, then I ask her what team she support. Then I cant think off anything to say and big silence for 2-3 mintues then they walk away.

2. Another one forein girl I was standing in club and she came up to me aasked what music they play. And then I told her what floors play what music, she ask if I dance I said I didnt dance. We then talk a bit about Italy where shes from, then she says she go to dance. then I see her when leaving club and she starts hanging round me asking if any other place open etc..I say I dont know and then walk with her and friedns a bit but they go into a hostel.

3. I was walking with pizza and I walk in fornt off 2 hot girls. I hear one say oh it smells so good I wonder if hed give me even a bit crust. So I turn around and say they are welcome to some, so she has some pizza and starts chatting to me. Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza, what u doin...She said they were going to xxx nightclub. I just said ok see you later.


So, thats 3 recent examples. I wonder what I codulve done and said in each case. And I wonder if any these girls were even interested?

Some thoughts.

1. Perhaps she sat next to me and start convo because she thoguth I was cute?

2. Perhaps at end off night I shoudl suggest to girl i Hvae patry in my house if she want to come ;)

3. I wonder if she only asked about pizza to get my attention cause she thoguth I was cute or if she really did just want some pizza?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm no DJ yet but those are the most obvious come-ons you missed.

Girl #2 was clearly sending you a free invitation to dance with her, pity you didnt know how to. Go learn to dance bro.

Also, if girls didn't dig you they wouldn't be asking stupid questions like 'oh what you gonna do after pizza?' Usually when a girl asks what you are dong next its a sign she wants to hook up with you (do not throw away the
possibility she's trying to keep the convo going). One reply I can think of is 'Nothing actually, but that depends if you're coming home with me'. Of course don't forget to give a cheeky grin/wink. :)

Just my $0.02
 

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donnyjondeppjuando said:
..So I never ever gone out much before because I thought I looked too young.

So, I started go to some clubs.

And I would sit or loiter around and girls have been coming to me and sit next to me or ask things.

eg..

1. One girl sat with her freind next to me and started talking about the music playing and how it was on at the soccer mathc earlier. I said cool and then she ask me what team I support, then I ask her what team she support. Then I cant think off anything to say and big silence for 2-3 mintues then they walk away.

2. Another one forein girl I was standing in club and she came up to me aasked what music they play. And then I told her what floors play what music, she ask if I dance I said I didnt dance. We then talk a bit about Italy where shes from, then she says she go to dance. then I see her when leaving club and she starts hanging round me asking if any other place open etc..I say I dont know and then walk with her and friedns a bit but they go into a hostel.

3. I was walking with pizza and I walk in fornt off 2 hot girls. I hear one say oh it smells so good I wonder if hed give me even a bit crust. So I turn around and say they are welcome to some, so she has some pizza and starts chatting to me. Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza, what u doin...She said they were going to xxx nightclub. I just said ok see you later.


So, thats 3 recent examples. I wonder what I codulve done and said in each case. And I wonder if any these girls were even interested?

Some thoughts.

1. Perhaps she sat next to me and start convo because she thoguth I was cute?

2. Perhaps at end off night I shoudl suggest to girl i Hvae patry in my house if she want to come ;)

3. I wonder if she only asked about pizza to get my attention cause she thoguth I was cute or if she really did just want some pizza?
This is an interesting post! I think many would blindly argue that the moment the girl comes to you, you are in a losing situation. I think if you make it about having fun, then you take control. Let's go!

Bud, your problem is a good problem to have. By no means am I an expert and it's really hard to tell without full context, but my initial reactions are as follows:

1. You most likely could have sparked the conversation with some follow up questions like: "Oh team X? What's so special about them?" She'll give you some sort of explanation, perhaps because she's from that town, w/e.

Off that, when you find good opportunity, you make some humorous comment with a face that shows sincerity so she can't really tell if you're joking or not, but she'll start visiting giggle town! It's hard to say what comes next, you just respond to her and keep it going until you find the conversation comes to a natural end. Get her number!

2. You don't know how to dance? No problem! Just go do it! Have fun, you don't need to impress her. Go dance, brother! And as for the reunion you guys shared -- that's really something you gotta work on: learn some cool places around you so you know one off the bat. Tease them a bit for not knowing the "cool places" and lead them with a bit of mystery "I know a place, follow me." If she can't for whatever reason, "I go there occasionally, I might shoot you an invite. Give me your number." And the beauty of that is, you don't even have to know the name of the place at this point! Keeps them thinking about it and gives you preparation.



3. Mmm! This seems too good to be true! First, I don't think she really wanted pizza. So many things pop into my head with this one:

a. "xxx nightclub? Why, the fun is back at my place, let's go." Chances are she won't accept because she has plans (and if she does accept, well her interest was pretty high and you're golden!). If she doesn't, that would be a good chance to get her number for some get together later.

b. "Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza"

If she asks you an obvious question, respond with the absurd!

Like,
"I'm thinking of throwing it off the roof of my building at bypassers"
"I was thinking of making a milkshake out of it, what do you think?"


c. "Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza"
You can even play it straight-forward:

"Yeah I'm gonna eat it, what do you do with pizza?"
...
etc!



I don't know if these are good routes to take, but this is what I would have done in your situation. I'm eager to hear what others have to say, there's always room for improvement.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Konada said:
One reply I can think of is 'Nothing actually, but that depends if you're coming home with me'. Of course don't forget to give a cheeky grin/wink.

Just my $0.02
But if you only just met the girl can you really say stuff like that to a random you met on street?

Also I hate clubs and I dont dance so I wouldnt really wanna go with them.Even bars I play pool but thats all I like about them
 
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luckster said:
This is an interesting post! I think many would blindly argue that the moment the girl comes to you, you are in a losing situation. I think if you make it about having fun, then you take control. Let's go!

Bud, your problem is a good problem to have. By no means am I an expert and it's really hard to tell without full context, but my initial reactions are as follows:

1. You most likely could have sparked the conversation with some follow up questions like: "Oh team X? What's so special about them?" She'll give you some sort of explanation, perhaps because she's from that town, w/e.

Off that, when you find good opportunity, you make some humorous comment with a face that shows sincerity so she can't really tell if you're joking or not, but she'll start visiting giggle town! It's hard to say what comes next, you just respond to her and keep it going until you find the conversation comes to a natural end. Get her number!

2. You don't know how to dance? No problem! Just go do it! Have fun, you don't need to impress her. Go dance, brother! And as for the reunion you guys shared -- that's really something you gotta work on: learn some cool places around you so you know one off the bat. Tease them a bit for not knowing the "cool places" and lead them with a bit of mystery "I know a place, follow me." If she can't for whatever reason, "I go there occasionally, I might shoot you an invite. Give me your number." And the beauty of that is, you don't even have to know the name of the place at this point! Keeps them thinking about it and gives you preparation.



3. Mmm! This seems too good to be true! First, I don't think she really wanted pizza. So many things pop into my head with this one:

a. "xxx nightclub? Why, the fun is back at my place, let's go." Chances are she won't accept because she has plans (and if she does accept, well her interest was pretty high and you're golden!). If she doesn't, that would be a good chance to get her number for some get together later.

b. "Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza"

If she asks you an obvious question, respond with the absurd!

Like,
"I'm thinking of throwing it off the roof of my building at bypassers"
"I was thinking of making a milkshake out of it, what do you think?"


c. "Then shes like what you doing going to eat your pizza, I said yeh Im gonna go home and eat my pizza"
You can even play it straight-forward:

"Yeah I'm gonna eat it, what do you do with pizza?"
...
etc!



I don't know if these are good routes to take, but this is what I would have done in your situation. I'm eager to hear what others have to say, there's always room for improvement.

Cool the problem I have with girls is I need them to put out fast with minimal solaiising because the longer I am aroudn people the harder it is for me to put up this social facade that I have to fake to talk to girls. Reality is I cant be bothered to talk to girls or flirt etc..I just want sex (im sure like many) So we can all play cassanova or DJ for a moment or two. The problem is say in above examples.

1. She wanted to talk for a while at club and swap phone numbers. GAME OVER. I need sex that night. How can I know she want sex or just phine number?

3. THe pizza girls may have invited me to go to xxx nightclusb with them. BUT if I hang around them all night they most likely then not be interested in me especially if I bore them or whatever. THey meet other dudes etc...



Really Im just an animal that wants sex with minimal conversation. Maybe I should just use prostitutes?
 

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Stop viewing them as solely sex objects, then. They're people just like you and I, which means they're very complex and there's a lot more than simply meets the eye (hopefully at least!).

You'll find that talking to them like they're anybody else will help you meet a girl that is into you. She might not have sex with you the first time you see her, but she'll come around after a date or two. Just make sure to send signals and keep things friendly. I've talked about extremely serious or depressing things (religion, depression, being medicated, heartbreak, scientific research, etc) and still gotten laid on that same date. Merely by looking her in the eyes in a lingering manner, keeping the conversation moving (it doesn't have to be funny or amazingly interesting), and not being afraid to touch her will get you laid with a girl that actually comes out for a date.

Seriously, women are a lot of fun to interact with around outside of just the sexual aspect. Don't discount them just because you want to have sex with them.
 

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OP, what are your stats?

I'm curious to find out why women are approaching you.

Are you good-looking, playful, buff, or something?
 
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OP, what are your stats?

I'm curious to find out why women are approaching you.

Are you good-looking, playful, buff, or something?
stats? lol what type of stats.

well yeh I guess I am ok looking, so Ive been told recently. Kind boyish and approachable looking so a girl told me. I been lifting weights since I was 15 years old and sports all my life but Im not buff just toned.

Im 5'11 bout 145-150lbs with abs, pretty skinny but chicks dig it I suppose.

I dress fashionable also. I look like a cross between Justin Beiber and some emo type dude LOL. I guess with long black hair. BUt Im not emo just have that type of face. Kinda like:

But hes much better looking.

I always get girls stare at me at the bus stop or on the bus. The other day this fit girl just stood right next to me and just stared at me. I was like wtf....Man Im so stupid I shoulve got her number. I always get schoolgirls on the bus try and tlak to me or do things to me also.

However, I never been a ladies man or the type to go after women as I always had horrific acne. But recently I went on holiday and sun cleared up my skin and I started sleeping with some girls I met. But they were drink and just coming on to me. I was pretty suprised haha. BUt it was just so easy lol. I thought maybe cause they were drunk and on holiday?

So, now I come home I enjoyed sex a lot etc..so I try more effort to go after girls at home. but Im not a very social guy in anyway at all. Pretty much loner/introverted. So, Im not good at talking to girls etc..so its hard work. Whereas on holiday like I say girls were drunk and horny so they just all over me.

I think people are more conservative at home. So, even if I am good looking to some girl maybe they spot me in the club and interested in me so approach me? Thats my guess, I dont know. These chicks are always pretty hot IMO. ANyway, it goes nowhere because socially Im just ''not there'' lol. So it sucks. On holiday it was so easy I never done anything. Girls just practically rape you when they get drunk.

I been to a few nightclubs here and try to walk near hot girls on the street but I just lack any social skills at all to go anywhere.



As for viewing them soley as sex objects. Well I do and I dont.

Im not very social so its easy for me just to see girls as sex objects.

On the other hand I am quite interested in interesting people and what they study, do etc...what music they like so in some respects I am in interested in them...But I found many girls just sleep with dudes they just met if hes good looking even if they dont know a thing about them, so why bother get to know them if your only looking for sex.. PLus I get bored around most people tbh. though I can hang with a hot girl for a while I guess.

I still have some standards related to the persons perosnality as to who I would hook up with for a one night stand or being drunk this can be diminished. But most people are chill. I just dont like loud or noisy or arrogant or masculine females.


Haha sorry for long story Im in typing mood.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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donnyjondeppjuando said:
But if you only just met the girl can you really say stuff like that to a random you met on street?

Also I hate clubs and I dont dance so I wouldnt really wanna go with them.Even bars I play pool but thats all I like about them
Ignore my post, I assumed it was in a club setting. Other than that it never hurts to learn how to dance, basically self improvement will help you net more girls eventually.

Also agree with 'I'm going to eat it, what do you do with it?'. A subtle neg on her for asking such a dumb question.
 
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