"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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so close yest so far.. too late now?

drift king

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My classmate when I studied abroad from 2 years ago came to visit my city for the weekend, I actually only saw her twice when we were abroad cos I was struck down by illness and I tried to arrange for me to get 1 on 1 with her. She had a long term bf at the time so it was a no go.

I knew that since she was coming I had to try my best at speed seduction. I was very afraid of the friendzone and felt our interaxction was leading to that. I tried to plan it so that I took her on date like scenarios ie only meeting her at night, alcohol etc

I got a big bottle of alcohol for her to drink and she got pretty tipsy but still no dice. I tried kino'ing which she accepted and rejected in equal measures but she would hold my hand or interlock our arms when outside.

I tried a kiss close in the bar, she moved away. Bad sign. Later I made suggestions for us to head back to her hotel and I'd give her a massage. She liked that idea but when I started adding sexual undertones she became cold.

Basically I understand she's not a slvt or trying not to look like a slvt, I was just trying to take advantage of the situation, girl abroad, drunk etc. It was tough cos I was avoiding tryna spend too much money and she insisted on going clubbing and thankfully I managed to avoid that.

Anyway she said she was sleepy and wanted to go back to the hotel, ibut she mentioned havign the massage and goign to sleep so I thought great!

We get back to her room, I start giving her massage, she said massage nothing else ok. I started slowly massaging then worked my way into taking her clothes off, she didn't resist. I got her panties off and started fingering her, she loved It, so wet, athen I start speeding up and she's starting to climax but then at the same time I'm tryna take my clothes off , shirt and tie with 1 hand all while still keeping up the momentum.

She pulls my hand away and says,, stop u have to stop.. Then I turned her back over and continued to finger her, sahe was loving it, but the mistake I made was while tryna open a condom with. 1 hand I let the speed of rubbing slip and that's when she moved my hand away and said no, u have to gom.

It was curtains from there, half naked, d1ck nearly out, condom opened. She kept saying its a mistake its a mistake it was only suppose to be a massage.

Basically instant buyers remorse guilt what ever u want to call it.

she leaves tomorrow and I don't wanna look like a sleazbag who planned this whole thing so I need to meet her tomorrow, how should I play it?

We weren't intimate enough for me to have any advantage at this point. The fact she wouldn't even let me kiss her tells me she wasn't attracted to me and I just took advantage of a drunk girl enjoying a massage and a fingering then felt guilty after.

has this 1 come and gone for me now?

She's visiting again in 1 month, I think maybe she thought I'd be slow and date her like long distance style but I was looking for the quick bang. Epic failure.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It's over now. Saw her today it was awkward. We were in a rush to get her to airport. She was wary of me.

What tips are there for last minute resistance when you already are fingering her?
 

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drift king said:
It's over now. Saw her today it was awkward. We were in a rush to get her to airport. She was wary of me.

What tips are there for last minute resistance when you already are fingering her?
I don't know man, why all the fuss about this one girl? If she's not into you, she's not into you... my advice is let it go.
 

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she already new from long ago that she did not want to F you but you wanted to F her.. she was very horny but you were not smooth enough to break her down all the way should have moved slower and maybe kissed her neck ...

when a females says it was a mistake or not supposed to happen thats a terminal sign and means she does not like you sexually.. and you will not have another chance in 99.999% of cases
 
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