"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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so 5/6 months later you try to talk to me?

Jaylan

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So I needed to post a thread on this. Cus this broad def annoyed me.

Back in late December I began talking to this chick on OKC. I liked her profile, thought it was funny, and sent her a message that conveyed my humor. She bit and we exchanged a few messages and I could tell she was digging me right away. However, I was sort of off put because she seemed a bit over eager and was not letting me do to much of a chase.

She gave me her number without my asking after a few messages and I dont know why I get put off when a girl makes it a lil to easy for me. I always wonder that somethings gotta be wrong with her if Im not doing the majority of the chase or shes not playing hard to get. Also, over the next couple weeks of texting and a few phone calls, she would actually ask me if I could phone her after work, meh.


Anyways, from talking to her I could tell we could chill and have a good time, but there was no spark on my end. And she wasn't the intellectual woman I was looking for, so I relegated her to my ****zone because she was an HB7 and still cool. Just not what I want in a GF


Anyways, she works full time and goes to school so she doesnt have all the time in the world. Also, she lived an hour from where I was living, but only a half hour from where Ive been going to school. (We live in suburban NY 2 hours north of NYC) I was a commuter student until this past February, but always had friends who would let me stay over if need be. So meeting this chick wouldnt of been out of the way really for me.

So Christmas weekend she was visiting her family down in Long Island which is east of NYC and I was visiting my best friend in Queens (NYC boro). So we were going to be like 45 minutes apart so I suggested we meet in between on the island and get some coffee. However a big snow storm hit the day I was supposed to drive down from upstate so I had to cancel since I didnt think the roads were safe.

So after that over the two weeks we text a bit, and I try to set up a couple meetings but she keeps saying she has to get back to me because of her busy schedule. Plus the frequency of communication slowed down and interest level seemed to wane on her end. So I just start to take the hint, and ask one last time and even mention to her that she doesnt seem interested in chillin, but she says that she wants to chill but shes just been busy. And at that point I say screw it and take her out of my interest rotation.

Fast forward to last night at almost midnight, I get a text saying "Hey what happened to you". I didnt know who it was because I lost all my contacts two months back and had to re add everyone, nevermind the fact I deleted her anyways way back when. And shes like, "oh you prolly dont remember me, its XXXXX" And im like oohhhhh " I could ask what happened to you too" And then she tells " I sensed some resentment in your response, should I have not hit you up" but I didnt address what she said because I wanted to let the convo develop for a few texts before I grilled her.

So next text she goes on to say her last few months have been hectic, that shes graduating, and that a close friend of her had passed a while ago. I give my condolences and a couple texts later she asks what new with me and if I am seeing anyone. And then I went into attack mode, because I was offended at the fact that she texts me 6 months later, on a saturday night at midnight no less, and then asks if Im seeing anyone so quickly? Huh?

So then I tell her "I am weirded out by you just popping up outa nowhere after so long and I assumed back then that we didnt have a fit and I just went along with my business." And she goes on to say that it wasnt that she didnt wanna chill, its thats she was always so busy and that I lived a bit away from her as well. And did say she dated a few people in between all this time but not for any reason why she hasnt hit me up all this time. Although she said she did 2 months ago as well to say she watched a movie I recommended to her, but I dont remember such a text.

I stopped texting her after a half hour because I was going out to the bars to sarge with my buddy and just told her id hit her up the next day. And she apologized for the oddness of a random late text after months and she blamed her work schedule for it.

Either way, its crap like this that makes me really upset with women and how they think they can just do dumb crap like this it makes me relate with the "Disgust with women" thread even more.

Part of me wants to game this chick, and just use her. But then I also think she doesnt even deserve my ****ing time and that itd be almost impossible for me to not always have some sort of feeling of disrespect from her. Because hell, you didnt really try to talk to me back then, but now you do.

Either way I am just venting. I couldnt see myself pulling what she is.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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mahoney

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im kind of confused by this thread and must be missing something somewhere or reading it wrong.

seems like she was into you more than the other way round and you weren't all that interested and she picked this up and eventually kind of gave up

then she messaged you out of blue (must really kind of like you) to see whats up and you seem put out by it, but when she was messaging you before you didn't seem that bothered.

i kind of don't get your annoyance with this one
 

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I guess you see it differently then I am. An objective viewpoint is good and what you said gives me something to think about.

However, I was interested in the beginning and I showed interest, I only backed off when she didnt seem too keen in meeting up and when her communication with me started to dip
 

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well look i can only go off what you have written but your initial post is all about how she was contacting you too much and you didn't really like that and you weren't really into her - i mean i dunno, but surely she realized this at some point and then backed off a bit, but...who wouldn't in that scenario?!
 

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Sounds like she is bored or has no other guys atm so she tried hitting you back up. Question is do you want to be second fiddle to her again after she ignored you the first time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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^ thats exactly how Ive been seeing it. "I wasnt good enough then but I am now?, If you really were into me at all you wouldve tried to give it a go?" Thats what i think of it all.

And today we get on the jokey subject of stripping because I said I would strip part time to help pay my school loans. And she goes on to say Id be sexy enough to do it...which I rolled my eyes to.

And then she texted me asking if Im still open to meeting her. And tbh, I dont feel she deserves that yet. If at all.

Maybe I am being a bit pretentious, but what would the more experienced and successful DJs here do?
 

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if i thought she might be fun or i would like to see her, then i'd go somewhere with her

if i didn't, i wouldn't

still don't really get why you're annoyed with this girl
 
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