"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Snobby chicks?

Deadly_Assassin

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I have been approaching quite a few chicks lately. I seem to attract the ugly to average chicks. But when I approach the 7+, I get snobbed straight away. Like I would say something and they just ignore me right away. Its happened a couple of times now.

Any suggestions on how I could get around this?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Most men will take "snobbiness" as a turn off, while it's really just some women's defense mechanism to men.

A lot of women who are attractive KNOW they are and thus hold their men to higher standards than those of less attractive women. They EXPECT to be approached who are well put together, well dressed, and well received by others.

Those who aren't any of the above, will naturally be turned away by these women who expect more. The good news is that besides being a defense mechanism, it's also a test. Women test men who don't seem to bring much to the table to see if they have something underneath them.

Most men who approach these women and get rejected will back away almost immediately. The knowledgeable man knows that this is just a thin barrier that is easy to break through and will continue conversation and turn things from awkward into natural and normal.

It's a very big misconception that these women are "high maintenence" and so forth. These women usually end up being women that are just afraid of confrontation and are usually very defensive because after all, they are afraid.
 

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I don't know if this guy means ignoring and such, but I do know I have had similar kinds of experiences where a girl takes a quick look at me from across the room and after that I can't even get eye contact because she's already made her mind up about me based on looks or whatever. This kind of behavior really sucks but then again, who wants to be with a *****y ho like that anyway? Even the sex can't be all too fun with a stuck-up broad.

And BTW, why is b i t c h one of the censored words on this site? I mean, are people still that uptight over WORDS anymore? Give me a break!
 

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i would try going something really indirect like asking for help with something or getting a female opinion on something..then going ahead conveying more personal interest later.
 

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Hey !
I have an advice for you : If a girl "snobs" you, just be as rude as her.

Me, walking behind a girl in the street: "Excuse me"
Her, keeping walking: "..."
Me : "EXCUSE ME!"
Her not even looking back at me: "I'm in a hurry!!!"
Me: "I bet! But I'm in a rush too!"

Then she stopped, turn back to me and was open for talking. :cool:
If the girl snobs you, maybe you could say something like:
"Oh I see... Are you unsociable or something? Or maybe you're afraid talking to strangers ? :whistle:
How old are you? No let me guess... 16? :D
Have nice day then ... bye !
If there is no reaction from her... Your pride will be safe ^^
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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they don't say anything back!
e.g. I wanted to look at some sunglasses so I went to 'Sunglass Hut'. There was this HB9 working there. I didn't build much rapport but I did give her some crap on not being able to find me a pair that I liked. Anyway, a couple of weeks later I see her in one of the clubs. I go up to her and say 'aren't u the chick from Sunglass Hut?'. She just ignores me and walks away.
 

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Whenever anybody gets approached when they're not expecting it alot of things go off in their heads and their instinct is just to get away. Maybe the key is to make them as comfortable as possible as soon as possible i.e. have a smile on your face approaching them.
 

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Deadly_Assassin said:
they don't say anything back!
e.g. I wanted to look at some sunglasses so I went to 'Sunglass Hut'. There was this HB9 working there. I didn't build much rapport but I did give her some crap on not being able to find me a pair that I liked. Anyway, a couple of weeks later I see her in one of the clubs. I go up to her and say 'aren't u the chick from Sunglass Hut?'. She just ignores me and walks away.
humm I see...
Maybe you should have said something about her rudeness like I said previously:

"ah ... you must have your periods... I understand... Enjoy your evening then." :D
or
"eh ! Has your mother ever teached you politeness?"
I would say something like that... Even if the girl doesn't react, your confidense will grow up anyway.


EDIT:
Yeah Slaog could be right. Maybe your approach (BL, smile) was not good ?
 

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There could be a million and one reasons why she doesn't want to talk.......shy, has a BF she respects, depressed or her pet's just died to name but a few. Yep she could even be just a *****. Never take it personally, just smile and be polite and go about your business. There will be plenty of other girls out there who will be delighted to have a chance to get to know you, you can't win 'em all, and why would you want to?

This reminds me of when people say to people they don't even know "cheer up, it might never happen". Some **** said this to a young girl on the checkout the other day when I was standing in the queue. She was obviously having a bad day by the look on her face......it's cringeworthy, Leave strangers alone if they're not feeling it......sorry rant over....
 

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02hero said:
There could be a million and one reasons why she doesn't want to talk.......shy, has a BF she respects, depressed or her pet's just died to name but a few. Yep she could even be just a *****. Never take it personally, just smile and be polite and go about your business. There will be plenty of other girls out there who will be delighted to have a chance to get to know you, you can't win 'em all, and why would you want to?

This reminds me of when people say to people they don't even know "cheer up, it might never happen". Some **** said this to a young girl on the checkout the other day when I was standing in the queue. She was obviously having a bad day by the look on her face......it's cringeworthy, Leave strangers alone if they're not feeling it......sorry rant over....
Yeah of course... We have to be socially aware.
If the girl looks like she's angry or sad ... It's obvious not to beeing rude ^^
It's all about the situation.
Anyway I'm still thinking that if the girl is snobby or rude, she needs a strong reframing :p
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If the girl is genuinely snobby or rude, she justs needs to see a classy guy walk the **** away with a with a big self satisfied "thank god I didn't waste any more of my time on that", smile on his face....
 

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cheers for the posts guys. I will keep u guys updated as i go along approaching more women. Right now, I have got this average chick whos pissed off at me for not talking to her enough at a 21st. SHe thinks I am rude.

Shes got some HB7s as mates btw.
 
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