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Smiling is the KEY

Francisco d'Anconia

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Wolf said:
Smile when you feel like smiling, and every time you feel like smiling (bar a few situations but you get the gist), you shouldn't walk around with a constant smile or may end up looking like Norman Bates (well okay he didn't constantly smile but you get my point [Psycho in case you didn't]).
Yeah, it helps when it's genuine, but then the person would need to be genuinely in a good mood. I think that's the problem, in many venues people are so concerned about what other people may be thinking about them, they are way too serious to be in a good mood. No, you don't need to be in a perpetual good mood but it never hurts to smile and say "hello" when pass a woman who catches you attention. But of course that assumes that you are paying attention.... :p
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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It is more important to smile when the moment is there for yourself, smiling for the sake of smiling is fake and will be noticed by EVERYONE. if you are not happy about a certain cituation, than you should be serious about it. Body language is built on honesty, the more you lie to yourself the less serious you wil l be taken.
 

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I really appreciated the post that said "smiling all the time is pretty d*mn close to the ideal".

Well, first off there are several grades of smile. A smile can 'haunt' your lips and be 'hiding' just around the corner, and that is a good expression to wear around town. If you count that a smile, you probably want to have that on 24-7.

But more importantly, just think of what it takes to be able to smile sincerely 24-7. For it not to be fake/contrived, you actually have to be in a good mood and generally feeling good for that much time.

I recently began to solve a big personal problem I had, (porn addiction!), and smiling is easy and automatic now even in public. So I think the question is: can you solve enough of your problems so that you become light-hearted enough to smile anywhere, anytime, in public?

It would be another external advantage that flows from being happy. So this is another 'tip' that advises mimicking the behavior of a person in the optimal, care-free, enjoying-life state.
 

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Technical1 said:
I recently began to solve a big personal problem I had, (porn addiction!),
What are you gona replace your porn addiction with...?????

All humans have some "vice/obsession" that fills the emptiness of their life some examples are:

1. religion
2. drugs
3. alchahol
4, sex and porn
etc.
etc.
 

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Technical1 said:
I really appreciated the post that said "smiling all the time is pretty d*mn close to the ideal".

Well, first off there are several grades of smile. A smile can 'haunt' your lips and be 'hiding' just around the corner, and that is a good expression to wear around town. If you count that a smile, you probably want to have that on 24-7.

But more importantly, just think of what it takes to be able to smile sincerely 24-7. For it not to be fake/contrived, you actually have to be in a good mood and generally feeling good for that much time.

I recently began to solve a big personal problem I had, (porn addiction!), and smiling is easy and automatic now even in public. So I think the question is: can you solve enough of your problems so that you become light-hearted enough to smile anywhere, anytime, in public?

It would be another external advantage that flows from being happy. So this is another 'tip' that advises mimicking the behavior of a person in the optimal, care-free, enjoying-life state.
This is particularly interesting to me because when I quit beatin the one-eyed snake so much, I noticed that it became MUCH easier for me to smile around people I didn't know in public. That's pretty cool that you've noticed that too.
 

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saber said:
this is not true...

smiling in many cases shows submissive behaviour
it also says you are seeking rapport for no reason

dont get me wrong a great smile goes a looong way...but its best not to have a stupid grin on your face all the time


I have tried and tested this
Submissive? Hardly... a good smile is inviting, confident, and projects an infinitely better attitude and image. Grinning like an idiot, that's creepy. A good smile says you're happy and don't need anyone else to be that way.

young_gun said:
I agree with the OP.

A good smile can do you wonders with women.
Absolutely, I have much better luck and get much more smiles in return from girls if I'm smiling myself, or have a content/happy expression, instead of a neutral one, or a scowl.
 

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One thing I've noticed is that when I consciously smile with my eyes I get alot more IOIs and girls being receptive to me, than when I'm not.
 

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Smiling is great, but IMO the best look to wear most of the time is a smirk. Like you know some big secret and will only tell it to the right kind of people.

Kinda like that old cliche..."Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to."
 

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What do you do when smiling is hard for you? I'm not a happy guy so I only smile in rare circumstances. If I try to force myself to smile it feels fake. Also I'm not even sure when to smile so most of the time I have on a neutral face.
 
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Maxtro said:
What do you do when smiling is hard for you? I'm not a happy guy so I only smile in rare circumstances. If I try to force myself to smile it feels fake. Also I'm not even sure when to smile so most of the time I have on a neutral face.
Exactly the same here. In fact, when I try to connect with a girl by smiling they usually turn away from me (which means a worst outcome than if I did not smile), or it just comes across as fake.

People say to practise smiling on a mirror and what not, but my face muscles are so weak too smile that even if I try to put the best smile on, the lips are just going to go up by a small amount, and there's no way I can keep a weak smile on my face for a long period of time.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Exactly the same here. In fact, when I try to connect with a girl by smiling they usually turn away from me (which means a worst outcome than if I did not smile), or it just comes across as fake.

People say to practise smiling on a mirror and what not, but my face muscles are so weak too smile that even if I try to put the best smile on, the lips are just going to go up by a small amount, and there's no way I can keep a weak smile on my face for a long period of time.
How is that even possible???
 

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this thread is kinda pointless because there are tons of subtleties to facial expression
that should be practiced


Anybody who disagrees with my other post try this...

With every guy you encounter, hold eye contact just a split second longer than they do.
Most guys do this a lot to establishe dominance?? and its kind gay to have some stupid smile on your face while you stare someone down.


as far as women go....

I noticed a perfect example afc body language by a girl this last few weeks if you care to read....

I show up at my usual club completely sober and just hanging out with my wing when... Hooray! this girl who I made out with when I was huuge afc shows up....lets call her hb jerk
Plus one of her friends who is crushing on me says hbjerk was talking **** on me at the pre-party they had....

I will not let hbjerk be more popular than me so I start working the room a little as she sits and watches. Occasionaly we talk and neither of us breaks more than an occasional smile as we continue to just test each other over and over. Although hbjerk was cool as a cucumber....another girl was not.

This other girl was the UG friend of HBtan, another girl I met that night. UG was constantly smiling, following me and delivering obvious compliments. a.k.a. complete afc style.....

Skip to the end of my night...I was sharing a drink at the bar while hbjerk was hanging on me...literally...she also bought the drink....score!! talk **** get hit ***** haha
hbtan and her ug friend approached us and the comparison was startling

hbtan has the most non-needy body language or facial expressions
ug sat there with a stupid grin, all up on my ****, trying to kiss ass

The moral of the story....smiling is like currency....if you give it away you have inflation
if YOU ARE THE PRIZE then smiling is signaling you appreciate her actions...IT IS HER REWARD


my 2 cents
 

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Ever wonder if they're actually having a good time? Wonder whether it the intimidating look actually works when sarging. Some guys try pulling it off and instead of looking tough they just look constipated.
I wonder that sometimes myself. It seems to me that the guys running the hip-hop clubs are the ones who calibrate their smiles. They don't give it out like candy, but don't hide it like it's diseased. The guys who I see mean-mugging the entire time are the ones who get no girl attention. When you smile, you look like you're somebody. Smile too much, you look like you're a child molestor. Calibration is key.

Smooth and expressive is the way to go. Don't smile unless there's something to smile about. If someone engages you in a conversation, smile, since you're sociable and enjoy talking to people. If they play your favorite song, smile, since you like that song. I don't know how else to explain this.
 

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it's not 100% guaranteed, but your facial expression will be reflected back to you, if not instantly. And it also helps if it seems natural and not forced.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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