"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Slowly putting myself out there...

Kirro

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So I've grown tired of inactivity & I realize that socializing is part of my mental self improvement.

So I'm at work with my male co-worker & we're in the back when we met two workers from a retail store right beside us(our stores share the same yardspace). One was a decent looking black guy & the other was a decent looking white/light hispanic female. The dude introduced himself to me & shook my hand & I immediately began hitting on the chick.

Me: You're cute, you should come work at my store.
Her: *laughs & blushing*
Me: Yeah honestly, its not fair.....I demand we trade.
Her: *is smiling & blushing & fidgeting*

Now my co-worker tells me that the chick might be the black guy's woman. However no one told me anything of the sort but I backed down anyway & just started asking her basic questions & answering her questions. I told her I'd see her around.

Later that night, an 8 walks in the store. Tall, thick white woman who seems to be in great shape, she's cute, has t!ts & ass & nice hair. She seems to be looking for something but can't find it.

Me: Having trouble?
Her: Where's the fat free milk?
Me: Sorry we're out, you'll have to look elsewhere...
Her: *frowns*

She talks with a Russian accent so.....

Me: Where are you from?
Her: Russia.
Me: Hot.
Her: Hahaha, that's hot? Do you like my accent?
Me: & everything else that comes with it.
Her: Oh gosh.
Me: *sarcastically* oops...did I go too far?
Her: Hahahaha......

I notice her carrying a bag with workout clothes & turns out she does kickboxing....I challenge her to a match which she humbly declines...I get my azz back to work so I don't get in trouble.

Later on the bus I met this dude who was wearing a shirt advertising the EVO gaming tournament...turns we have a lot in common & he wants me to meet his large circle of friends....so score.

Today I was at the pool with my friend learning more swimming techs. He leaves & I stay back because today is piss arse hot. Tons of good looking chicks were present but the catch is, I'd risk being arrested trying to game them. Nevertheless to practice my skills I was looking for the best looking ones who weren't part of a massive herd. Then I see a female lifeguard in the pool practically doing nothing so I swim on over. She's a high 6 in my book, she's cute but she's slim without much t!ts & azz.

Me: Come here.
Her: *smiles & complies* I can't go underwater though.
Me: You won't have to. Show me how to thread water without using my hands.
Her: *she gladly demonstrates*(I make sure to learn it instantly because I simply cannot look stupid while performing a physical task in front of girls - you would not believe I couldn't do this up until that point)

We begin talking about things like my hobbies, her non-existent hobbies, her manager not liking her which I just shut up & listened till I could change the subject, she brought up that she used to play tennis for 11 years & I want to learn tennis so we talked about that. I wanted to be more sexual but she's a 6 & I have trouble being sexual with anything below a decent 7. I simply didn't have the balls to kino her, somehow I wasn't getting that vibe. She was staring directly into my face & smiling for the most part & she seemed to react pleasantly whenever I smiled/grinned. An old lady interjected at some point, starting an absurd convo in which I communicated with the 6 via body language at how absurd it was. Then the old lady mentioned that I was handsome & she loved my smile....honestly, doesn't mean much coming from an old lady but she was funny & nice so I appeased her till she went away.

Lifeguard chick was on break & I was basically a way for her to fill time & I knew this but I willfully gave her the attention to increase my social skills. I ran into a cool dude I haven't seen in a while & got his number...he's super confident, good looking, in great shape, goes to college, is going to law school next year & is treated as an alpha male. It was fun watching him interact with everyone. As I was leaving, I got the lifeguard chick's number....when I asked for it she was grinning from ear to ear. Told her we should have that tennis match sometime soon.

I missed an opportunity to talk to this latina who was all alone...she swam near me because she obviously wanted the same thing I wanted but for some reason the words wouldn't come out...BAHHH! Maybe its for the best, I probably would have gotten arrested.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I really enjoy reading about the progress you're making.

All I can say is keep it up.
 

Kirro

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Thanks mate. I'm getting bolder each day, soon these little reports will get a lot more interesting.
 

Kirro

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Only one interaction for today. I was at the gym & I saw this short chick with a huge rack using the machines. I was intrigued because she looked quite feminine yet she was adept at using the machines somewhat effectively.

So after all my serious exercises were completed I sought her out.

Me: Hey..
Her: Hey *sharply*

This knocked me a bit off balance but I composed myself in half a second.

Me: Question, what do you eat? How do you train?
Her: Huh?
Me: *I repeat looking right into her eyes*
Her: *proceeds to tell me about her high protein diet & her cutting carbs*
Me: How long have you been training?
Her: 3 months.
Me: Really?
Her: Yeah....why?
Me: The reason I ask is because there's a female friend of mine who wants to work out.
Her: Oh...well *explains that she has to run in order to achieve her goals*
Me: That's exactly what I thought, but she's lazy.
Her: Well that's what she has to do.

She mentions that's she had surgery recently & was unable to do much. I immediately think its the reason for her huge rack & I have to fight the urge to make some comment implying that, I also manage to hide all traces of me thinking that from my body language & facial expressions.

Me: Well thanks for the advise, enjoy your day & recover well.
Her: Thank you. *smile*

I had nothing sexual in mind to tell her & the way she responded & looked at me said that she was ready to reject any sexual advances. I kept it innocent & decent. A boring report. I didn't really learn much. Hopefully I'll be able to post something a bit more fun.

During my workout I noticed this older lady looking at me. I smiled at her & she smiled back.I nodded my head & continued working out. She's probably as old or older than my mom but she's white so it doesn't matter. She must have looked pretty good at my age, I can age reverse her face in my mind & see that she was pretty nice to look at, her body is pretty good too, flat stomach, nice legs & azz for a white chick but her t!ts have to look pretty poor now(they only look good probably because of the bra). I noticed her looking at me a lot during the week & today. Some older guy was chatting her up & she seemed to be half way asleep during the conversation. I was amused because I wasn't going to save her & I was enjoying her being sent to sleep on her feet.

I don't want to pursue this angle though. The lowest my standards can go is a 5 or 6 around my own age. I can't imagine banging some dried up chick, the smells, the feel & the taste cannot be good. I doubt I'd be able to maintain an erection. I'll just smile politely & keep it how it is.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Good job brother! Keep at it.

The title of your thread could summarize the problem that 90% of men have in this game which is NOT GETTING THEMSELVES OUT THERE.

They think that just because they spend time on forums reading the theory that they somehow deserve to have a woman. What they don't realize is that sometimes the secret is to just BE SEEN by women (and often).

There's plenty of single ladies in every town looking for romance. You have to be seen by women and be seen often. Sooner or later you will find one for yourself.

This is true for most situations. I found myself ending a cold streak of dating when I got a job that happened to have a lot of women working there. That same principle applies if you socialize more and go out more you will be seen by women more.
 

Kirro

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I will keep at it. I'm taking babysteps but I'm getting there. As my physical muscles grow, so will my social muscles.
 
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