"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I met this women about 10 days ago...we went on a date 5 days later.

it was alright...pretty good...not like hey I am blown away...we ended up out with a group of people so I am not sure Id call it a date persay..but it was intended that way..well I did kiss her....and it was pretty quick...but she was feeling it.


tuesday I called her to see if she wanted to hang out...this was 3 days afterwards.

it was about 930 at night when I called...we ended up talking until 1 am.

complete 180 from before....we hit it off.

I avoided calling her wed night to make sure that shyt didnt go to my head.

so last night I called her and we again talked for nearly 3 hours..just about anything and everything...going on and on.

we both agreed it is clearly something good..

I havent hit it off like this since I was 19 with someone.


wtf do I do now???

I cant stop the progress...weve talked to much to fast and its great..but I really dont want to **** this up...Im not worried about being needy or whatever...but we both have lives and all that....and I dont want to get all infactuated then have it blow up in my face...

I am thinking of seeing her more and talking less....however if I see her and the physical relationship takes off..then there is pretty much no way I can put the breaks on this.

I wont lie I am deeply excited over this...but I am also scared...feel like a pyssy
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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you know what.

im just gonna run with it.


its exciting and fun.

if it doesnt workout then it doesn't..im not gonna over analyze a good thing
 
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lol talking for hours and hours on the phone?? I thought they covered this in the high school forum, that's a no no..

Just kidding, maybe it will work for you.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
lol talking for hours and hours on the phone?? I thought they covered this in the high school forum, that's a no no..

Just kidding, maybe it will work for you.
oh yea...I know...that has definitely came to mind.
oh well...adults have more to talk about :)
 
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frivolousz21 said:
oh yea...I know...that has definitely came to mind.
oh well...adults have more to talk about :)

How'd you meet this broad?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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she is a secretary at an accounting firm.
when I went to get my taxes done she was there.

we had small talk..she said she was bored..

I said come out with me this weekend and you wont be.


thats that
 
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frivolousz21 said:
she is a secretary at an accounting firm.
when I went to get my taxes done she was there.

we had small talk..she said she was bored..

I said come out with me this weekend and you wont be.


thats that
Damn not bad! Lol I thought it was going to be a myspace pickup.. Keep working it man, maybe you found the one.
 

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Nice pickup, but you should do your talking on the date instead of on the phone. If you're gonna be yakkin to her on the phone anyway, might as well be with her physically.

A woman will be more stimulated by your entire presence rather than your voice and words alone. You also know how well women and words go together... not all that well. She'll respond better to body language and kino.
 

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if the DJ pendelum was compared to a political scale.

Id say your a left leaning DJ :)..dont ask why...just seems right.


that guy whos name is (.)(.) would be the rush limbaugh of Djs!
 

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we had small talk..she said she was bored..

I said come out with me this weekend and you wont be.



That was good, very well done, although talking for hours was bad.


I am thinking of seeing her more and talking less....however if I see her and the physical relationship takes off..then there is pretty much no way I can put the breaks on this.

That's all on you. I hear you saying that you like the girl so much that you are going to turn afc over her. All of us can be the aloof, ambivalent dj with lesser attractive women. But the more attractive the woman is, the harder it is to not turn afc.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Bible_Belt said:
we had small talk..she said she was bored..

I said come out with me this weekend and you wont be.



That was good, very well done, although talking for hours was bad.


I am thinking of seeing her more and talking less....however if I see her and the physical relationship takes off..then there is pretty much no way I can put the breaks on this.

That's all on you. I hear you saying that you like the girl so much that you are going to turn afc over her. All of us can be the aloof, ambivalent dj with lesser attractive women. But the more attractive the woman is, the harder it is to not turn afc.

I am a little confused....

I am not sure what you mean by turn afc.

I am more concerned about being a serious LTR within a month or two rather than turn afc.
 

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frivolousz21 said:
it was about 930 at night when I called...we ended up talking until 1 am.
The surest way to be a bore is to say everything - Voltaire




This is a Kiss of Death, be very aware of it.
 

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oh yea...I know...that has definitely came to mind.
oh well...adults have more to talk about
Careful not to justify bad behavior. I guess it depends what the two of you are talking about. If it's about her, you're becoming an emotional tampon. If it's about you, you're becoming less of a mystery for her to figure out - not good. If it's about trivial stuff, stuff that Seinfeld would talk about, then you're probably okay.
 

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frivolousz21 said:
I am a little confused....

I am not sure what you mean by turn afc.

I am more concerned about being a serious LTR within a month or two rather than turn afc.

You said no way to 'put the brakes on it.' I thought you meant your feelings for her, that you would fall for the girl. It is afc to not being able to control your feelings or let them control you. But if you can keep the ability to walk away, then good for you. When any of us meets a girl we really like, it is easy to lose the power in the relationship.

You are making it hard on yourself to try for a 'serious ltr' so quickly. A lot of guys on here would say that in itself is afc. I respect whatever you want, but I think the best way to get that serious ltr is to let it come to you, and focus on enjoying yourself in the moment with whomever you are with. Thinking about a future together with someone before it happens sets you up for disappointment; it's also what women do, and it puts you at a disadvantage when there is a power struggle within that ltr. Just let it happen. Spend time with the girl who is the most fun and treats you the best. When that girl has become the same girl for several months - then there you go, that's your serious ltr. Your stock only rises with time; there is no need to be in a hurry.
 

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frivolousz21 said:
but I really dont want to **** this up...Im not worried about being needy or whatever..

What! You should be worried about that considering the sentence before that!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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