"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm a big dude. Not fat, but big and muscular. I'm 6'5 weigh about 250lbs, with a 7 percent body fat.

Now I think I do well with women because I'm LEAN. You hear a lot of talk about how men can get away with being fat, but women are judged more harshly. I think that's a total bunch of bunk.

Maybe back in the day, women didn't care so much about a guy's looks, and actually felt safer with a more robust guy. But these days women are just as shallow as men.

There are entire websites dedicated to men seeking "bbw's" or Big Beautiful Women. These HOGS actually have very high standards, and these AFC's kiss their ample asses. Where do you see a website dedicated to dating BIG MEN????? You don't because there are none......

And do you want to know the most obnoxious part of all?????? THESE BIG WOMEN DON'T WANT TO DATE BIG MEN!!!!!! THEY WANT GUYS WHO ARE IN GOOD SHAPE TO ACCEPT THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE, BUT THEY DON'T AFFORD BIG MEN THE SAME COURTESY!!!!!!!

Read that paragraph over a few times, and reflect about how ridiculous that is. I'm so sick and tired of hearing how women are driven to be thin because men make them feel inadequate. THAT'S BULLSHYT....Most men prefer women with some curves....it's other WOMEN who drive women to eating disorders because women judge other women much more harshly than men do...

I thought someone should address this.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mr_knowit_all said:
Read that paragraph over a few times, and reflect about how ridiculous that is. I'm so sick and tired of hearing how women are driven to be thin because men make them feel inadequate. THAT'S BULLSHYT....Most men prefer women with some curves....it's other WOMEN who drive women to eating disorders because women judge other women much more harshly than men do...

SO true , this point is not addressed enough.
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
...These HOGS actually have very high standards, and these AFC's kiss their ample asses. ...
That's just plain 'ol nasty.... :moon:
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
And do you want to know the most obnoxious part of all?????? THESE BIG WOMEN DON'T WANT TO DATE BIG MEN!!!!!! THEY WANT GUYS WHO ARE IN GOOD SHAPE TO ACCEPT THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE, BUT THEY DON'T AFFORD BIG MEN THE SAME COURTESY!!!!!!!

Read that paragraph over a few times, and reflect about how ridiculous that is. I'm so sick and tired of hearing how women are driven to be thin because men make them feel inadequate. THAT'S BULLSHYT....Most men prefer women with some curves....it's other WOMEN who drive women to eating disorders because women judge other women much more harshly than men do...

I thought someone should address this.
Who gives a **** about fat fetish websites?
 

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That's why beautiful women aren't always attractive. I mean they're beautiful, but if they're working so hard to be beautiful you've gotta wonder what other insecurities do they have. I tend to gravitate towards the women who are naturally beautiful, even if they could lose a few pounds.

I'd rather be with a woman who is confident no matter how she looks than be with a girl who needs the satisfaction of looking amazing.

Theres a difference in women who want to stay healthy and beautiful and women who NEED to stay healthy and beautiful
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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MVPlaya said:
Who gives a **** about fat fetish websites?
I'm not talking about "fat fetish" websites fool. I'm talking about how these fat cows think they deserve men in good shape, when they can't stop shoveling mint bon bon's in their mouths.
 

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I share your disgust at these women for sure as I work hard on my physique too, but I don't agree that it's only women who have these kinds of standards and attitudes. There are MANY fat slobs with huge beer guts deriding overweight women (or even slim, yet not so attractive women) and expecting hot, slender women to dive onto their c0cks. Many such guys are on this site and think their "seduction techniques" earn them that right.
 

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Jariel said:
I share your disgust at these women for sure as I work hard on my physique too, but I don't agree that it's only women who have these kinds of standards and attitudes. There are MANY fat slobs with huge beer guts deriding overweight women (or even slim, yet not so attractive women) and expecting hot, slender women to dive onto their c0cks. Many such guys are on this site and think their "seduction techniques" earn them that right.
You're right, but there's a difference. You do have fat slob guys expecting gorgeous women to fall at their feet, but in reality, does it ever happen?

On the other hand, these female fatties DO get men, because even fat poontang is better than none to some guys. It's a fact of life, no matter how bad a female looks, some horse's ass AFC is going to boink her.
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
You're right, but there's a difference. You do have fat slob guys expecting gorgeous women to fall at their feet, but in reality, does it ever happen?

On the other hand, these female fatties DO get men, because even fat poontang is better than none to some guys. It's a fact of life, no matter how bad a female looks, some horse's ass AFC is going to boink her.
Yes, I do agree with that. And I also notice that these guys who are with fat and ugly chicks are often very meek and supplicating, while the women are loud and (over) confident.

It is an odd phenomenon, but maybe these guys are too shy to approach or chat up women, yet also desperate, so they go for the first girl who approaches them or makes it easy for them...usually the fat confident chicks!
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
You're right, but there's a difference. You do have fat slob guys expecting gorgeous women to fall at their feet, but in reality, does it ever happen?
I can't say if it happens a lot, but i can say i've seen it happen quite a few times. It used to really confuse me a few years back, just why would a great looking woman go for a guy who was... not so great looking. In the end i wasn't sure if i should envy the guys or feel sorry for the women, some of those guys certainly knew what they were doing.

Good points though what you brought up, i have to admit that while i had always known how other women's opinions effect other women, i hadn't really given much thought on how that also connected with their weight and general health schemes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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In general I hate people (men and women) who complain that their fat and they can't do anything about it. The truth is they're too lazy and noone wants to tell them the truth, so most of them end up thinking that it's healthy to stay that way and end up being fat their entire lives. I used to be chubby (23% Bodyfat with a fat stomach) and guess what!? I actually decided to do something about it by playing three sports and now I'm "skinny". There's so many FAT Americans because they don't face any social pressure like SMOKERS do, I think it was addressed in the movie "Supersize Me" that people should start criticizing fat people since they're the ones who chose to be that way and if they needed help there are plenty of trainers and doctors to help them.
 

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PeterNorthisawesome said:
In general I hate people (men and women) who complain that their fat and they can't do anything about it. The truth is they're too lazy and noone wants to tell them the truth, so most of them end up thinking that it's healthy to stay that way and end up being fat their entire lives. I used to be chubby (23% Bodyfat with a fat stomach) and guess what!? I actually decided to do something about it by playing three sports and now I'm "skinny". There's so many FAT Americans because they don't face any social pressure like SMOKERS do, I think it was addressed in the movie "Supersize Me" that people should start criticizing fat people since they're the ones who chose to be that way and if they needed help there are plenty of trainers and doctors to help them.
True, but the difference between fat people and smokers is that fat people don't kill innocent people with second hand fat. Sure they're hurting themselves, but smokers try to take everybody else with them.

BTW noob..I could say something really funny to your post, but I won't.....
 
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I for one like what I like. And it's not a big fat hog.(Sorry ladies.) As a matter of fact I like to match my body type as close as possible. It's just the way it happens to be.

ADKdj
 

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True, but the difference between fat people and smokers is that fat people don't kill innocent people with second hand fat...
You've never sat next to one or even worse between two of them on a flight from LA to NY have 'ya?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Most girls in this country would rather be called a "cvnt" than "fat.

Anyways, all this is symptomatic of Men having given away all their power in this country. So, high time WE started taking it back NOW. Unless you want to keep fighting over drunken Orca MILFs addicted to Prozac...
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
You've never sat next to one or even worse between two of them on a flight from LA to NY have 'ya?
But I doubt that unpleasant adventure will have future consequences on your health...LOL
 

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But I doubt that unpleasant adventure will have future consequences on your health...LOL
Are you sure that cellulite isn't communicable?
 

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Most girls in this country would rather be called a "cvnt" than "fat....
That's very profound. I bet you're right.
 

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Mr_knowit_all said:
I'm so sick and tired of hearing how women are driven to be thin because men make them feel inadequate. THAT'S BULLSHYT....Most men prefer women with some curves....it's other WOMEN who drive women to eating disorders because women judge other women much more harshly than men do...
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Haha... boohoo... being thin is easy. Like a little bit of cardio and not eating junk food all the time is so difficult.


Ever notice how every commercial or news brodcast or anything like that is about LOSING weight? WTF can't people just not get fat to begin with? It's so much simpler. If you notice you weigh 4 lbs heavier than you did a bit ago like it's sooo hard to walk a little more and cut back on the donuts to stop the weight creep.

Driven to be thin? Pfft... if you're so weak minded and are going to fall to pieces and be herded about by others and can't resist putting mayonaise on everything you deserve your heart attack and everyone's ridicule. JESUS PETE (!) park in the back of the parking lot.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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