"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Single moms...go for it or run?

Moofahsa

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I'm 22, met a girl that is a single mom...I can tell shes into me but I'm not really sure about dating a single mom AGAIN. (I dated one when I was 16-18)

Not going for a piece of ass, but a serious relationship...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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At your age, run.

Now close this thread and thats that. Trust me.
 

DJVladdy

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Duuude i cannot believe u guys are passing out older women. Single mom, married woman, woman older than 35 all major turn ons
 

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this topic comes up alot

I'm curious about this too.

Are single moms at least good for a quick lay? I know all mature djs say stay away from them as far as relationships are concerned.
But what about a quickie?????
 

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Disadvantage: you'll always be less important to her than her kids.

Advantage: she won't be eyeing you up as a sperm donor (more applicable to 30ish people, when biological clocks start ticking louder).
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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what exactly does the term biological clock mean? does it mean when women get older, they want babies and start thinking about it more?
 

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Ken785 said:
what exactly does the term biological clock mean? does it mean when women get older, they want babies and start thinking about it more?
Pretty much.

I think it's mostly a legacy biological urge, since it's normally difficult to have children after a certain age. Although I've heard of women in their 60s having children. With modern technology more things are becoming possible.

The attitude that older people aren't as good a candidate for being parents also lingers. I've heard of the 73 year old man who has custody of his twin 8 year old grandsons. His custody was challenged, I think the theory is that he wouldn't be able to handle them because he wouldn't have enough energy. However, he kept his custody.

Funny thing is, except for energy levels and in more extreme cases, whether they'll live long enough, I very much believe that older people in general would make better parents than younger people.


As for single mothers, it just sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Also, if the single mother is less than 27 years older than her oldest child, I seriously call into question her responsibility. Very few people under that age seem to have sufficient resources to raise children. After all, the single most expensive (both money AND time) undertaking of any normal, typical adult is a child. Plus, how many 22 year olds have a lot of money or have higher paying jobs?


If a single mother is less than 21 years older than her oldest child, then I won't touch that and I don't care what her situation is.

Another thing, is that since I don't have any children, I demand that she doesn't have any children either.
 

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Don't raise someone else's DNA. What are you, stupid?

A single mom is a hor, and a particularly low-value one at that. Hors don't make for good relationships. She's all over you because she wants you to help raise her b@stard. She knows that her status as a single mother has dramatically lowered her marketability in the dating scene. Don't settle for a girl so low-quality.

if you're just going for a ONS, on the other hand, then just do whatever
 

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I've known single moms who are good women and others who are not so good. A lot of single moms are more realistic about relationships, having found out for themselves it often doesn't work out like their fantasies would have it.

As with any particular group of people, there's no "one size that fits all."
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I just got out of a LTR with a single mom. Probably the worst mistake I ever made. Way too much drama having to deal with the kids father and whatnot. And also the poor kid started to call me daddy. So if you just wanna f- buddy its cool but as for LTR I would stay away.
 

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Do you prefer older women, are there many women having babies young in your area or do you just happen to fall for the mommies?

I'm 22 and rarely meet single mothers in the dating scene. I can see that a 32 year old man would run into them regularly, but at 22 it is unusual.

How old was the woman you dated in your teens? And this one?
 

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Obsidian said:
Don't raise someone else's DNA. What are you, stupid?

A single mom is a hor, and a particularly low-value one at that. Hors don't make for good relationships. She's all over you because she wants you to help raise her b@stard. She knows that her status as a single mother has dramatically lowered her marketability in the dating scene. Don't settle for a girl so low-quality.

if you're just going for a ONS, on the other hand, then just do whatever
Best said...
 

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Most of the time, there's a reason that Daddy's not around anymore, and most of the time that reason has something to do with Mommy. The only exception I can think of is sometimes a guy will discover meth and disappear from his family.

But at 22, someone else's kids are the last thing you need. Maybe at 42 it would not be such a big deal, but you are way too young to be a surrogate daddy.
 

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gray_fox_9 - The kid started calling you daddy. ****! Run for the hills.

The problem with using single moms as **** buddies is that feelings can/will develop and then it becomes harder and harder to run away.

ONSs is ok I suppose.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I don't know what the HELL is wrong with this area. I am taking 2 psyc/sociology classes for summer 2 session....

I was stoked I was the only guy in either class, 6 chicks in one and 6 in the other. Granted 4 of the 12 were older and married, but NO JOKE every single solitary one has a kid. 8 out of 8 possible...100%... I showed up early to class today and hung out in the lobby waiting for chicks to walk through the front, hoping to strike up a conversation...this fine looking tall chick comes waltzin in and doing the whole over done ass shake because she knows I'm staring...

Walks into the lobby and asks about finanical aide and if their was freakin daycare.

I'm seriously thinking about just giving up and becoming ultra involved with the church, seems that is the only place where the responsible women are.
 

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Or just move to a different area. A good 80% of unmarried women in their twenties are childless, even atheists.
 

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I'm seriously thinking about just giving up and becoming ultra involved with the church, seems that is the only place where the responsible women are.
A decent idea. Try to find a church that hasn't adopted feminized theology. Church girls aren't usually promiscuous (altho there are some f*cked up churches which are exceptions), but you can still find plenty of feminists among them. Feminists are masculine women who are similar to hors. Find a church that adheres to solid biblical theology, with a traditional setup to the worship service. That is, find one with real men and real women.
 
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