"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Similarity of Attractivness Between Guys Who Are Taken and DJs:A Good or a Bad Thing?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ashley Chuckles said:
I think that the ‘jump’ in attractiveness can be attributed to a couple of things… ultimately it depends on the kind of person you are…

Firstly, there is the added confidence of having a woman already there… the approach and rapport stage is without consequence really because even if a chick blows you out then you can go home and get some much needed validation and sex so that you feel like a real man again… you’re natural, you mind is clear and you’re not thinking too hard… it’s almost like poker… imagine you’re sat at the table and you’re down to your last few chips, while the dude next to you has a good $100 of chips… now think and contrast the way in which you would both play the next few hands…

Secondly, women are hugely competitive and being married acts as a validation for them… its proof that you are some kind of prize… they know you’re worth something to somebody else so the chances are that you’ll have something to offer them too… married dudes to certain chicks are like a Picasso to an art gallery curator

It’s all kind of irrelevant however because there’s no use in attracting lots of chicks once you’re married… well, maybe there is some use, but not in the sense that you can cash it in… I’m not going to get married for a boost of confidence, I’m going to get married because I’m at a stage where I want to do the ‘family’ thing and I’ve found a chick who is excellent to do that with… when I’m at that stage in my life and I have that chick, I’d be foolish to give it up
This is all good but it still is strange that when we were out I was flirting with her, her girlfriend and the waitress. If anything I was cognisant as to not come off as a player. But none the less she thought I was married.

DevanE spoke that it could be because women feel that a guy my age is probably married no matter how he acts in public. That sucks! However, the other women I've spoke to all have said it would have been something I had done. For the life of me I can't fathom that flirting with anything in a skirt is what the "typical" married guy would do.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
i dunno about you but most people would presume that someone who is almost 40 has already found a wife
 

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Alright, finally getting back to this thread. I hooked up with the woman who thought I was married and it seems that she thought I was married because "I should be married." :eek: That's what she said. She thought that since I had my act together and didn't overtly go after her or her friend, she assumed that I was married or at least majorly committed.

Looking back I realize that I just flirted with them and didn't attempt to close. I'm wondering that if it's possible that some women will believe that a guy is taken just because he doesn't try any method of closing. I'm going to check with some other women on this.
 

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I think I've been overly confident.. yes.. last girl I was talking to was extremely insecure. I think she thought I was too good for her.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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NFC said:
I think I've been overly confident.. yes.. last girl I was talking to was extremely insecure. I think she thought I was too good for her.
I've had that problem in the past. Now I'm not remotely attracted to self conscious, insecure women. Give me a woman who regularly stands out from the crowd. :up:
 

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Actually, most of Doc Love's dating methods are based on subtly suggesting that you just might be married.

"He won't give me his phone #? He only calls for 3 minutes to ask me out, and completely dissappears between dates? WTF?" These are, logically, red flags, but you should do them anyways, since women secretly want the ultimate challenge of taking a man that another woman loves. Half of her will be intrigued, and the other half, the moral half, will keep rationalizing away all those red flags.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Actually, most of Doc Love's dating methods are based on subtly suggesting that you just might be married.

"He won't give me his phone #? He only calls for 3 minutes to ask me out, and completely dissappears between dates? WTF?" These are, logically, red flags, but you should do them anyways, since women secretly want the ultimate challenge of taking a man that another woman loves. Half of her will be intrigued, and the other half, the moral half, will keep rationalizing away all those red flags.
True, I forgot about that. I'm one of the quiet few who feel that Doc Love has some viable insights toward women. But in this case this woman did nothing improper while she thought I was married. Now after she found out that I wasn't... Well... ;)
 
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