"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Similarity of Attractivness Between Guys Who Are Taken and DJs:A Good or a Bad Thing?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ashley Chuckles said:
I think that the ‘jump’ in attractiveness can be attributed to a couple of things… ultimately it depends on the kind of person you are…

Firstly, there is the added confidence of having a woman already there… the approach and rapport stage is without consequence really because even if a chick blows you out then you can go home and get some much needed validation and sex so that you feel like a real man again… you’re natural, you mind is clear and you’re not thinking too hard… it’s almost like poker… imagine you’re sat at the table and you’re down to your last few chips, while the dude next to you has a good $100 of chips… now think and contrast the way in which you would both play the next few hands…

Secondly, women are hugely competitive and being married acts as a validation for them… its proof that you are some kind of prize… they know you’re worth something to somebody else so the chances are that you’ll have something to offer them too… married dudes to certain chicks are like a Picasso to an art gallery curator

It’s all kind of irrelevant however because there’s no use in attracting lots of chicks once you’re married… well, maybe there is some use, but not in the sense that you can cash it in… I’m not going to get married for a boost of confidence, I’m going to get married because I’m at a stage where I want to do the ‘family’ thing and I’ve found a chick who is excellent to do that with… when I’m at that stage in my life and I have that chick, I’d be foolish to give it up
This is all good but it still is strange that when we were out I was flirting with her, her girlfriend and the waitress. If anything I was cognisant as to not come off as a player. But none the less she thought I was married.

DevanE spoke that it could be because women feel that a guy my age is probably married no matter how he acts in public. That sucks! However, the other women I've spoke to all have said it would have been something I had done. For the life of me I can't fathom that flirting with anything in a skirt is what the "typical" married guy would do.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
i dunno about you but most people would presume that someone who is almost 40 has already found a wife
 

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Alright, finally getting back to this thread. I hooked up with the woman who thought I was married and it seems that she thought I was married because "I should be married." :eek: That's what she said. She thought that since I had my act together and didn't overtly go after her or her friend, she assumed that I was married or at least majorly committed.

Looking back I realize that I just flirted with them and didn't attempt to close. I'm wondering that if it's possible that some women will believe that a guy is taken just because he doesn't try any method of closing. I'm going to check with some other women on this.
 

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I think I've been overly confident.. yes.. last girl I was talking to was extremely insecure. I think she thought I was too good for her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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NFC said:
I think I've been overly confident.. yes.. last girl I was talking to was extremely insecure. I think she thought I was too good for her.
I've had that problem in the past. Now I'm not remotely attracted to self conscious, insecure women. Give me a woman who regularly stands out from the crowd. :up:
 

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Actually, most of Doc Love's dating methods are based on subtly suggesting that you just might be married.

"He won't give me his phone #? He only calls for 3 minutes to ask me out, and completely dissappears between dates? WTF?" These are, logically, red flags, but you should do them anyways, since women secretly want the ultimate challenge of taking a man that another woman loves. Half of her will be intrigued, and the other half, the moral half, will keep rationalizing away all those red flags.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Actually, most of Doc Love's dating methods are based on subtly suggesting that you just might be married.

"He won't give me his phone #? He only calls for 3 minutes to ask me out, and completely dissappears between dates? WTF?" These are, logically, red flags, but you should do them anyways, since women secretly want the ultimate challenge of taking a man that another woman loves. Half of her will be intrigued, and the other half, the moral half, will keep rationalizing away all those red flags.
True, I forgot about that. I'm one of the quiet few who feel that Doc Love has some viable insights toward women. But in this case this woman did nothing improper while she thought I was married. Now after she found out that I wasn't... Well... ;)
 
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