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Silly birthday gift?

Energy25

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This girl who is in one of my classes and sits next to me has her bday tomorrow. She told me when her bday was last week. Long story short, we have a little "inside joke" if you will about this crappy cereal that I bought. I thought about just putting something like oreos which she likes inside of this empty cereal box. We are constantly just joking around like little kids in class and I thought it would be a good way to be funny, but also show that I did REMEMBER her b-day, which I think is good? What do you think? Right now we just talk pretty much just in class, sometimes on the phone, texting, but not too much. I'm keeping my distance, and today, for instance, I backed off and didn't really talk to her that much.
 

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SweetDannyJ

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One way ticket to friend zone my man.

Don't put ores in a cereal box and give it to her, please. These are the things her gay male friends would do.

Reading this post again, i think you might already be in the friend zone to be honest.
 

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SweetDannyJ said:
One way ticket to friend zone my man.

Don't put ores in a cereal box and give it to her, please. These are the things her gay male friends would do.

Reading this post again, i think you might already be in the friend zone to be honest.
Well I don't really see how I could be in the "friend zone", considering I don't talk to her that much outside of class, and she is almost ALWAYS the one who reaches out to communicate with me outside of class. I'd say there's a good chance she likes me, since whatever I say is funny to her, even though sometimes what I say definitely isn't even funny. She also has admitted not intentionally but through other things she says that she thinks about me.

Although, I think you are right though about the gift. When I see her I think I'll just be like "oh what a terrible day this is. nothing ever good happened on this day, etc., something like that. What do you guys think?
 

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Well, glad you elaborated a bit then. Things sound better than I fought based on the original post.

You're not in a position to buy her things yet. So don't. What you said was a pretty good idea. It's not going to get you any points, but won't demote you either. You should try to stay off the flag waving "I'm over here honey!" kinda actions at this point.

If she likes you, however, the simple action of remembering her bday will make her happy. Again, if she likes you, it'll probably make her happier than anything else you could do. The idea being that she likes you. She can't believe the person she likes remembered her bday. ...could I fit anymore "she likes" in a single paragraph? Sheesh.

Anyway, sorry for making assumptions about fz. Details are your friend.
 

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get her a bottle of wine. its cheap. if you can fit it inside the cereal box, go ahead. BUT... then be cool, and a bit aloof. play it off. push pull. maybe she will inite you to share the wine. probably not.

I have tried these little gift things, and although they come off afc, they seem to also get their minds working towards thinking of you in a romantic frame.
 

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Have you touched this girl at all? I'm talking about kino, even light kino? If not, then friendzone is still possible. Chances are she's having a party, and you haven't been invited. When you look at it this way, giving her a cereal box, or giving her anything reeks of thinking this through way too much. Meanwhile she could already be banging some guy she hasn't told you about. She might be flirting with another guy in her other classes. Who knows and you shouldn't care if you're talking to girls in your other classes.

If you really wanted to spike this girls interest then you would skip class completely tomorrow. Then when she asks about why you missed, then you can tell her about whatever cool things you did instead of going to class. It helps if you actually have cool experiences to share and talk about. I never had more attention in class from people than when I talked people up, made some friends and then disappeared for class every once in a while. Plus you have an excuse to copy notes from the cute girl you want to get to know. Considering that you have this girls number, you could also call her and tell her to skip class with you to go do something fun.

Just a couple suggestions from the King of hearts playbook that I learned through trial and error. The cereal box thing is try hard. You wouldn't do that for a guy or any other girl that you didn't like. So the cereal box will be sending a message. And do you really want to convey your romantic interest with this gift? That's chick behavior. If she likes you, she will be telling you its her birthday first thing tomorrow. That's your window to transition into asking her out to celebrate her bday. Bottomline, if you're playing it right, someday she will be bringing you gifts so don't sweat about bringing her anything tomorrow.
 

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I don't think the funny gift idea is bad, as long as it is given in a casual lighthearted way. As long as the frame is not "I'm trying to buy your affections", giving a small gift is a very effective way to flirt. It says you've thought of her. Again, the context has to be casual, and it sounds like that's the nature of the relationship anyway. And it's for a laugh, so I don't see how you can lose.
 

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I ended up not giving her anything, but it was more just based on the situation and how things played out. Anyways, she was the most flirty she's ever been today in class. Yesterday I was really tired and as a result, I didn't really talk to her that much and I didn't really pay much attention to her. I think that may have led to her coming on more strongly today.

Anyways, she touched me a few times today; for example, once when she had raised her chair up so she was sitting really tall lol, she put rested her elbow on my chair, and then on my shoulder.

So when we were both on the same level as far as the chair heights go, she raised her chair up really high and then said "I'll get on top, you go on bottom" or something similar, and then laughed, obviously knowing how it sounded sexual. Then she put her chair down and I put mine up and she said "Now you go on top." The thing is, she would laugh after she said these things, but she did say them nonetheless.

Also, we always joke around about how she is dating the teacher of our class, and she said he was coming to her dorm room today after class. (just joking lol) And so eventually we were kinda joking about them having sex, and then I asked if her roommate was going to be there, and she said "just at the end", so I replied, "Oh well at least you'll finish strong", and she replied "yeah that's the most important thing, the finishing stretch". While were saying all this nonsense, she laughs and smiles with eye contact. lol Does this mean anything? or just two friends havin fun?

Not that it probably matters, but she has a bf from back home.
 

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wow i've never seen this much analyzation all in one post especially about trivial stuff.....you must really like this girl that much.

just go for what you want dude and stop all this analysing stupid things you got going on atm. MAKE A MOVE/KINO/KISS/SEX/WHATEVER but just do something or you gonna go looney-tunes just thinking about it.
 
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