"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Silent Moments (What Do I Do?)

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Me and this one girl hooked up after I had flirted and joked around with her at work. (Using the ****y/funny attitude)

Here's the deal...we CAN TALK...but usually it's on the phone (I know that's a NO NO...but give me a little help and I won't need the phone anymore...)

But anyway...we can talk...but it's always on the phone. What can I do so that we'll ramble on and have decent conversations when I'm taking her home from work or out on the town with her?

Her and I talked on the phone for 4 hours the night before we started dating...I know she can talk...but I've gotta do something...if we can't talk...it's not going to work out...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yes sir. That's just about all you need to do. Talking soo much on the phone makes it awkward when you're actually in person because you're soo used to talking on the phone all the time, you don't really know what to do.
 
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Originally posted by Jerky Boi
Yes sir. That's just about all you need to do. Talking soo much on the phone makes it awkward when you're actually in person because you're soo used to talking on the phone all the time, you don't really know what to do.
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yea. agreed....but really there are a million things you can talk about anyways... but yea that advice up there should help for now
 
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pick out little insignificant things about her and bust on her about it, then, branch off that. for instance:

u: nice shoes. didnt know the circus was in town
her: *hit you or whatever* jerk!
u: *laugh* so whered u get them
her: oh this little store out on the edge of town. they sell such unique stuff...
u: i can see that. u have interesting tastes in fashion..


etc etc. i almost always start a conversation out with a bust and then float off that subject. then u can get talking about how much they cost, isnt that expensive, i got mine at finish line, etc etc.

try it on chicks u could care less about and it gets easier.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What's a really good way to get to know a girl? Any games or questions...or anything like that?

Just wanting some advice on getting to know her a little better. I mean...I'm getting to know her more and more each day...so yeah...but advice would be much appreciated.
 
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Originally posted by Juggalo
What's a really good way to get to know a girl? Any games or questions...or anything like that?

Just wanting some advice on getting to know her a little better. I mean...I'm getting to know her more and more each day...so yeah...but advice would be much appreciated.
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Ask questions, relate, reveal a little about yourself( not much) and listen listen listen. Best advice I can give ya.
 
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It's hard to listen when she doesn't talk...

I have to talk for her to start talking...she tries to make conversation...but here's the deal:

She told me that all she's ever dated is stoners and druggies and ****...so now that she's with a guy like me (none of the mentioned) she doesn't really know what to do. She never talked to her other boyfriend's on the phone and hardly talked to them in person...so...

What do I do?
 
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Originally posted by Juggalo
It's hard to listen when she doesn't talk...

I have to talk for her to start talking...she tries to make conversation...but here's the deal:

She told me that all she's ever dated is stoners and druggies and ****...so now that she's with a guy like me (none of the mentioned) she doesn't really know what to do. She never talked to her other boyfriend's on the phone and hardly talked to them in person...so...

What do I do?
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Simply get her talking... there are a few articles in the Bible. Once you pick up some of those skills, you'll wish she would shut up...

The chick is maybe shy and has people problems? She sounds gothic.. lol
 
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Dude...why talk with her in person if you can kiss her / hug her / screw her / make her horny for you!?!?!? Why!? You can do an encredible amount of communicating without actually talking!

When things start getting silent it is like a friggin golden invitation to lean in and kiss her, and start gettin freaky.

If you actually really truly just want to talk, ask her golden question that so many overlook. "How are you feeling?" This leads to intersting places packed full with convo fodder.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Thanks for the advice thus far, guys. I'll check out and find the articles in the bible and I'll try asking her how she feels...if any of you all have anymore to contribute to help...please do so!
 
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