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Sign of interest if girl busts your balls?

daboss

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I read somewhere that one sign of interest from a girl is when she wants to bust your balls.

This one girl a few weeks ago just couldn't stop busting my balls and singling me out. We had some fairly good conversations with each other and other people at the event we met at. She also invited me and other people there to eat together afterwards and attend a dance class another time.

She also was kind of teasing me for my accent when I was trying to practice the foreign language we're both learning. (I don't want to reveal the language. But it's comparable to how some American-born Mexican cannot speak Spanish well, so some people think they're being disrespectful by 'denying' their heritage or expect them to learn Spanish much quicker than people who don't have Mexican heritage). At first I didn't mind, and I thought it was funny. Then she kept doing it so I was getting a little nervous as I wasn't sure if she was just joking or if she really was trying to mock me and put me down. As in, she was comparing me to a character on a TV show (I haven't seen it so I don't know if that's a good thing or not). I don't usually have a problem with this so I didn't know how to react. Another guy then kind of criticized the way I speak in that foreign language since he (and some of the other people there) thought I should speak it at a higher level since my ancestors spoke it. She seemed to agree. I was mentioning that I just started learning the language fairly recently, but then the girl said she learned it at the same time as me and is not of that heritage, so I should speak it much better than her when in reality I didn't. Then the man said that I must get girls interested in me really easily (I forgot the reason. Maybe because he thinks they would like my accent?) and she said I probably do, but I wasn't sure if they were saying that honestly or in a mocking way. I didn't want to start a confrontation, so I just kept my mouth shut and tried not to be defensive.

Later on, when it was just me and her walking to go back home, I think she sensed that I was a little upset, so she talked seriously about how I speak the language better than her and that other people she knows in my situation have also gotten similar criticism. She may have just said that to avoid awkward silence as we were both heading in the same direction

So was this girl clearly interested initially but lost respect for me when she noticed that I didn't tease her back? How should I react next time? Or was she and the other guy insulting me and trying to put me down?
 

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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

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Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Oh so she felt pity for you? Thats not attraction at all. You were butt hurt and you showed it, so she felt bad for you.

You will never get to fvck this girl.

May I suggest you... find a new one?

Yes your right, next time tease her back. It's really easy. Or next time ignore it, but out of a place of indifference, not butt hurtness
 

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I was a little irritated and wasnt sure if they were just messing or if they were treating me like i was dumb and trying to put me down. I'm not terribly interested in her anyways so no loss. I just wanted to know if she was seriously interested so i know what to do if another girl does the same thing
 

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When i'm getting mixed signals and am feeling a little confused. I'll just ask her to do something by herself with me. And see if she rejects or approves, then i'll know for sure what's going on. No gaming, just an invite to get a yes or no answer...

The way you word it is very important. Rather than to suggest a particular place make the request all about you.

Instead of: "Let's go to Starbucks"

Say: "Wanna grab a coffee or something?"

Don't try to sell the place at all, sell time with you and see what she says. By saying "coffee or something" you're telling her it's not about the coffee at all but in a very subtle way. It's about you doing something together. It's a pretty neutral request so it's not like you'r asking her on a date or anything. You're not putting yourself out there at all. She says no, you say cool and it's not like anyone was rejected. And now you have the piece of mind you didn't let some little hottie slip through your fingers. She ever mentions anything about you not advancing, just mention the coffee date she rejected...
 

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Never loose your cool in front of a chic, man, it spells disaster. Bail if your emotions are making you sweat and you're getting heated, but don't ever admit she teased you too hard and made you butt hurt.

At the end of the day, you gotta have your own chops to bust on these girls...without fear.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sounds like she was just having fun being a ****. Yes, they were busting your balls, and probably just in fun to them. But they were pressing that same 'fun' button over and over and over. Probably more in awkwardness in themselves and not knowing what to talk about.

For yourself, just like the others guys have said. Play it cool, don't show getting hurt. Making light fun of yourself too in a confident way is good. Shows that you're strong enough in that way. Unless they start getting disrespectful/pushy about it - then tell them 'Alright, that's enough'. In a cool, calm way. Some people don't realize that what they're doing is annoying. And if they persist - walk away.
 

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In situations where I'm getting mocked, I've found it very helpful to agree and escalate. For example, if we're in a study group and a girl keeps mocking me about how I'm so dumb that I can't grasp a concept, I agree with her and escalate by saying something like "Yeah, I'm really dumb. In fact, my middle name is dumb."

99% of the time, it completely disarms women. You want to do this in a cool, calm and nonchalant manner then go back to whatever it was you were doing and act like she's not even there. If she keeps mocking after that, you just say "Yup. So true" and keep nodding your head after that.

It will drive those type of women nuts that they can't get under your skin. Her brain will start to wonder why you're not offended or getting mad at her. Hence the attraction process has begun.

Once a woman starts to wonder about you excessively or try to figure out what makes you tick, the attraction train is on its way.

Just go about your activity, you can even invite her closer to you to explain the concept to you because you're really dumb and you need someone smart like her. Afterwards, use SgtSplacker's idea about asking her out by saying "Hey, let's grab some coffee or something."

Simple. Anytime you come across someone making fun of you, just agree and escalate and don't give them your time of day afterwards.
 
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