Shy Women

[April_Infinite]

All this DJ'ing stuff is nice, it has been working well. But when I try to use this stuff on shy women, things go downhill. I know these DJ'ing laws are universal for any woman, but being humorous, and all these other things just seem to not work as well on introverted and "goodie goodie" women.

I ask, do I just have to tone down my game a notch to get these challenging women, or is there a different way to DJ a shy person?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

What do you guys see in shy women anyway?

 

[Vypros]

I know these DJ'ing laws are universal for any woman,

No they don't, champ.

 

[Obsidian]

supposedly if you find a non-h0r, you should still be alpha but just not as overtly sexual.

That's Lastman's doctrine, anyway. I haven't been trying it for very long so I don't know for sure if it works.

 

[dap]

I am interested in this too. When you are trying to joke around and be ****y-funny, its tough when they don't give you any feedback because they are too shy. I've thought that maybe it would be a good idea to call them out on their shyness in a ****y-funny way: "Are you always this shy, or is it only around guys like me?"

 

[Dannyrt34]

Neg-hitting the shy girl is fine. Just don't expect to get anywhere with a shy girl anytime soon.

And the DJ rules ARE NOT UNIVERSAL. NEVER BELIEVE THAT. That's what turns you into a robot. What I did was apply the DJ rules to the personality I already have. You must learn to go with your gut instinct around women, do what feels right. You develop the ability to read women better with experience, and you change your game to suit the situation.

And sometimes you just have to throw some rules completely out the window and do something you might consider wrong or AFC. But who cares, as long as you have the girl in the end.

 

[blinkwatt]

I notice that shy girls will hop on the first male to say "I like you,can we uh....i mean do you mind if......can we go out?"(AFC). Those types of chicks are just about willing to go out with anyone it seems,CAUSE NO ONE HAS THE BALLS TO ACTUALLY ASK THEM OUT! Just don't be a jackass to them,as you shouldn't any girl and you will be fine. Remember C + F only works if you have BOTH ****y + funny,not just ****y.

 

[Obsidian]

Then should you not expect a shy girl to give you the same IOIs and consistency that a regular girl would?

 

[FurryFriend]

DJ stuff doesn't work on shy girls or girls with low self-esteem.

For example, you can joke/tease with women or act slighly obnoxious or negligent to get her attention and to prove you're a challenge. But if a girl suffers from low self-esteem, she can take offense to it and get seriously pissed.

This is prime example of why there aren't really any universal DJ rules. Rules may apply to 80% of women. But if you're just so happen to be in love with someone in that 20% exception, all that you've learned is really just crap.

 

[April_Infinite]

Okay, my bad on the "universal" thing. Though still, I'm not getting any solid answers. I can't really all-out DJ them, yet I can't act beta either. I guess some of them aren't used to being DJ'ed, and you could just be straight, and it would work, but I'm mostly talking about these more intelligent, hb 8-10 shy women, which you'll fail if you charge head down.

Gimme some of your experiences with them, have you had to be a little bit more tricky with them, more direct, need more rapport time, etc?

 

[jaymo]

i think a genuine compliment might actually work. This one girl, she was dating this guy for 2 years and broke up with him 6 weeks ago. Well 2 weeks ago me her and another guy were watching a movie, and he made a joke about her butt being big and she in an act of insecurity asked me if it was true (it wasn't and I said as much). Later, I brought up the incident again, and after we talked about it, I told her outright that I thought she was hot, that she would make some guy happy someday, and that I really meant it and not let anyone else tell her differently.

I don't run into her a lot, and I don't have her number (yet) cuz I met her last year while she was taken, but she seems to initiate conversations more and sits by me, and she asked me one time what I was doing that night (told her I had plans that night).

Incidentally, the day she broke up with her Ex (valentine's day actually), she sat with me at a school valentine's party i was at.

But this is just 1 example.

 

[mrRuckus]

What do you guys see in shy women anyway?

It's not their overall personality. They usually come out of the shell once they know people and often end up quirky and fun people who for whatever reason reserve displaying their personality to private situations. I'm personally a lot like this but i wouldn't say i'm shy... i just don't crave human interaction as much as a normal person and don't feel the need to talk ALL THE TIME (which from my perspective is what normal people do.. don't you ever shut up?! ). So i'd say i'm introverted usually but not shy as that's not necessarily the same thing.

I like them better than extremely extroverted women.

Of course, some are just dull, but so are the outgoing ones who say a lot of nothing.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

It's not their overall personality. They usually come out of the shell once they know people and often end up quirky and fun people who for whatever reason reserve displaying their personality to private situations. I'm personally a lot like this but i wouldn't say i'm shy... i just don't crave human interaction as much as a normal person and don't feel the need to talk ALL THE TIME (which from my perspective is what normal people do.. don't you ever shut up?! ). So i'd say i'm introverted usually but not shy as that's not necessarily the same thing.

I like them better than extremely extroverted women.

Of course, some are just dull, but so are the outgoing ones who say a lot of nothing.

Way, way WAY back a woman once told me "You have such a great personality, too bad not too many people know it." Since then I've gone out of my way to engage people. I definitely don't crave attention and there are times that I just unplug from it all.

I will say that I do enjoy feeling confident enough to start a conversation with anyone without feeling that I was making myself vulnerable by putting myself out there. It's hard to feel that way when people seek out your attention because they enjoy hanging out with you.

 

[April_Infinite]

Mr. Ruckus pretty much summed up what I've been trying to say, nice job.

 

[Last Man Standing]

What do you guys see in shy women anyway?

Are you kidding? Shy women represent their femininity most accurately - unless they are shy hors - meaning that they only put on a timid persona in public but will put your dyck in their mouth in private!!!!!!!!!!

True feminine shyness represents submissiveness - this is why girls do not see a shy submissive male as the "prize" - because he has become a woman! - to a certain extent! He is still a man but not to his fullest extent because he lacks the aggressive proactive nature!!!!!

 

[Obsidian]

so therefore...LMS must be advising you to take the advice of my original post:

supposedly if you find a non-h0r, you should still be alpha but just not as overtly sexual.

That's Lastman's doctrine, anyway. I haven't been trying it for very long so I don't know for sure if it works.

He never really expounds on his strategy in much detail so I feel the need to speak for him.

 

[Last Man Standing]

so therefore...LMS must be advising you to take the advice of my original post:

supposedly if you find a non-h0r, you should still be alpha but just not as overtly sexual.

That's Lastman's doctrine, anyway. I haven't been trying it for very long so I don't know for sure if it works.


He never really expounds on his strategy in much detail so I feel the need to speak for him.

Obsidian - sexuality is only a sub-part of the man - masculinity is his whole!! Virgins are frightened of men who are too sexual because remember, they never had a sexual encounter so you must pursue them as women which entails more than her vagina - this is where romanticism comes in -- Hors do not need to be romanticized - they have been sexualized already and thus have lost their femininity - for the greater part!!!!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Are you kidding? Shy women represent their femininity most accurately - unless they are shy hors - meaning that they only put on a timid persona in public but will put your dyck in their mouth in private!!!!!!!!!!

True feminine shyness represents submissiveness - this is why girls do not see a shy submissive male as the "prize" - because he has become a woman! - to a certain extent! He is still a man but not to his fullest extent because he lacks the aggressive proactive nature!!!!!

I'm right with 'ya about shy submissive males being the "booby prize" but throwing sticks and telling shy women to go fetch can hold my interest for only so long.

 

[eko]

some girls are too shy... like u can hardly get a reaction out of them in some cases... so it's no wonder they've never had a boyfriend or hooked up with anyone. it's a damn shame cause some of them are so hot too haha. i used to like shy girls cause i thought like hey, she must be an easy catch if no one else likes her, but that's not the case. u can't even get any push and pull out of them. there's a difference between a quiet girl and an introverted, shy girl. i've met girls that are pretty quiet but not shy.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

some girls are too shy... like u can hardly get a reaction out of them in some cases... so it's no wonder they've never had a boyfriend or hooked up with anyone. it's a damn shame cause some of them are so hot too haha. i used to like shy girls cause i thought like hey, she must be an easy catch if no one else likes her, but that's not the case. u can't even get any push and pull out of them. there's a difference between a quiet girl and an introverted, shy girl. i've met girls that are pretty quiet but not shy.

Some who have dated look for the guy to tell them everything to do. From deciding what they were going to do on every date to what she would wear. Then they look to you for entertainment every time. Way too much work for me. At least you can deflate a blow-up doll an pack it away when you get bored with it. Shy women get very attached and clingy to you if they depend on you to run their lives..