"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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shy girl, i think?

trd323

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ok, so i have been dating this girl a while now probably 3-4 dates and we have a great time together. We both laugh and bust each others balls. This girl is an 8 or 9 in other peoples standars but mine 7. I work with her, and she gets hit on a lot. anyway, I have tried to get her alone a couple of times to go for the k close but she always seems to avoid being alone together like going back to my place. It seemes to me she has high interest level,. but not sure if she is playing it slow because I seem to have a reputation on F girls at work and customers and leaving them. HELP

Also, she seemed very knowledgable about "game" so i was telling her about the movie how to lose a guy in 10 days, and how there are "rules". then she tells me that her sister always tells her what to do about guys, her sister is probably a 8-9 as well.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Don't underestimate "shy" chicks - they've got game just like any other. Treat them the same as any other chick or you'll get LJBFd and they'll run rings around before you realise what happened.

Reason she won't get alone with you is to avoid getting intimate. I don't buy an 8/9 who is too shy to even kiss. Even shy chicks like getting it just like any other, and it can't go on for much longer (or you're literally just friends hanging out). Find out sooner rather than later - a kiss is nothing so unless she's not interested there's no reason for her to refuse. In terms of getting further, get an excuse to show her something at your place, or pick something up at your place/stop off there on the way somewhere etc. The key is also to make sure she feels comfortable that you won't ditch her after you get some.
 

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i wonder how can u check whether a girl just being polite?if she is just trying to be nice with all people?because this fact that she avoids being one to one with u says smth. doesn't it? but the idea of going to the beach seems very good thou. would u consider trying it?
 

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juanita said:
i wonder how can u check whether a girl just being polite?if she is just trying to be nice with all people?because this fact that she avoids being one to one with u says smth. doesn't it? but the idea of going to the beach seems very good thou. would u consider trying it?
wtf?

Anyways, her sister obviously told her not to give you some so that you're caught in her spiderweb. And it has worked since you are here asking about her. A interested woman does not let go of the man she is interested in. I'd next her, it'd show how really interested she was. Remember, she must not have a strategy for you to "win". If both sides have an agenda, a strategy going on, what happens is a ***** slappin' festival.
 

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SamePendo said:
wtf?

Anyways, her sister obviously told her not to give you some so that you're caught in her spiderweb. And it has worked since you are here asking about her. A interested woman does not let go of the man she is interested in. I'd next her, it'd show how really interested she was. Remember, she must not have a strategy for you to "win". If both sides have an agenda, a strategy going on, what happens is a ***** slappin' festival.

I disagree pendo. I would see this **** as a good challenge. Her sister has told her not to sleep with me. **** that! I would bust on her but only as another option for when i have a night free. Throw her on the backhand...see her...but not too often. Put another girl at priority 1 but dont next this one.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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