"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Showing your annoyance at her spoilt behaviour?

big weezy

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Should you show your annoyance when she behaves spoilt and immature that you won't take that kind of behavior? If not, what should you do?

This obviously is a bad idea if you have only started dating. If she says something spoilt like ''I don't care if it's not cool.'' in reference to her forgetting to meet up or not being ready. If she doesn't think it's a date and just a meeting then you getting all angsty about it is going to push her away.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The only way to deal with inappropriate behaviour is to withdraw attention.
 

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Yeap, you should show her your annoyance! You are a man who knows what you're looking for, and that behaviour is not something you can approve! Tell her about it!

My gf kept saying random immature jokes and acting like a child! Well, I told her that this is completely immature and maybe someone else would laugh, but I don't! She gave me that look (you know you're so mean with me), I just cast a smile back at her and kissed her! At least now she is thinking twice before she mention one of those jokes again in front me!

Another thing also found annoying was her cell phone! WTF? we are on a date you can't just talk with your friends on the phone for 10 mins and leave me looking around for something to do! So, one day a friend of her calls and she picks it up, I say to her " you have two minutes to talk" again with a smile on my face! She starts talking and when the two minutes passed I show her the clock and smile! She hangs up and we continue our beautiful date!

You HAVE to say something when something is inappropriate for your standarts! You just have to say it in a nice way, with a smile or followed by a kiss!
 

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Is there any point posting in these forums anymore when people like DonJuanit0 come out of nowhere and give poor advice? How is the OP meant to know which one is good information or bad information?

I give you spot-on information and then someone who doesn't really know what he is talking about comes in with a load of crap.

I repeat, your ONLY weapon against poor behaviour is to withdraw attention and preferably give it to other girls. Women understand COVERT behaviour like this, not overt behaviour like coming out and telling her exactly what she did wrong and that she should change.
 

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katatonia said:
Is there any point posting in these forums anymore when people like DonJuanit0 come out of nowhere and give poor advice? How is the OP meant to know which one is good information or bad information?

I give you spot-on information and then someone who doesn't really know what he is talking about comes in with a load of crap.

I repeat, your ONLY weapon against poor behaviour is to withdraw attention and preferably give it to other girls. Women understand COVERT behaviour like this, not overt behaviour like coming out and telling her exactly what she did wrong and that she should change.
So when you say withdraw your attention for instance if she is not ready for a date and tries to convince you to have it outside a cafe where she's studying, should you just walk off?

Also, if she's on her phone on a date, should I just walk off?

And if we're arguing and she's fed up of talking to me and keeps looking around not paying attention to what I'm saying even when I tell her to look at me. What should I do in that instance?

Or if she forgets to meet up for a date and I show up and try calling, can't get through to her until half an hour later, she comes down. Should I look angry or just act unaffected?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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big weezy said:
So when you say withdraw your attention for instance if she is not ready for a date and tries to convince you to have it outside a cafe where she's studying, should you just walk off?
If you are intent on having your date wherever you wanted and she tries to change your mind then it is fine for you to walk away. Never break frame.

big weezy said:
Also, if she's on her phone on a date, should I just walk off?
If she knows it is annoying you then it is fine to get up and walk away without any warnings. Otherwise I'd probably tell her and give her a chance, if she continued to use her phone then I would walk away without a word.

Look at this thread:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=168190

big weezy said:
And if we're arguing and she's fed up of talking to me and keeps looking around not paying attention to what I'm saying even when I tell her to look at me. What should I do in that instance?
Laugh at her and walk away, then ignore her until she is blowing up your phone begging for forgiveness, even if it takes a few days.

big weezy said:
Or if she forgets to meet up for a date and I show up and try calling, can't get through to her until half an hour later, she comes down. Should I look angry or just act unaffected?
I would just cancel the date if she took that long and ignore her for a while as punishment. And yes, remain unaffected.
 

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Katatonia gives good advice.

I struggle to stay calm in situations where i am annoyed, which i would be if the above happened. Good luck Big weezy.
 

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katatonia said:
If you are intent on having your date wherever you wanted and she tries to change your mind then it is fine for you to walk away. Never break frame.



If she knows it is annoying you then it is fine to get up and walk away without any warnings. Otherwise I'd probably tell her and give her a chance, if she continued to use her phone then I would walk away without a word.

Look at this thread:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=168190



Laugh at her and walk away, then ignore her until she is blowing up your phone begging for forgiveness, even if it takes a few days.



I would just cancel the date if she took that long and ignore her for a while as punishment. And yes, remain unaffected.
For the last bit say for instance I go see her half an hour after the date was suppose to be, should I wait for an explanation or should I look annoyed?

I looked annoyed and she was backing off when she saw me about to run back into her dorms. It's like she was pulling a runaway stunt so I'd back down so I had to switch from being annoyed to telling her off.

I felt maybe I should have just let it slide or would that tell her subconsciously that I am a pushover?

Some people suggested to just let it go, mention it's not cool that she forgot and if it doesn't happen again then fine. Me yelling at her trying to get an answer why she forgot or how she could forget despite me texting her 'see u tomorrow' the night before just confuses the hell out of me.

Could her ''forgetting'' be a test?

http://www.sosuave.com/articles/thetest.htm

This article mentions about her ''forgetting'' a date.
 

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katatonia said:
Is there any point posting in these forums anymore when people like DonJuanit0 come out of nowhere and give poor advice? How is the OP meant to know which one is good information or bad information?

I give you spot-on information and then someone who doesn't really know what he is talking about comes in with a load of crap.

I repeat, your ONLY weapon against poor behaviour is to withdraw attention and preferably give it to other girls. Women understand COVERT behaviour like this, not overt behaviour like coming out and telling her exactly what she did wrong and that she should change.
You really have issues don't you? Maybe a complex or something? I guess many people have told you before right? :) Do you even know what a forum is and how it works?

Congratz for your good advices, I guess the questions on this forum should be answered strictly by 4-5 people here! Sorry for my believes that this was a normal forum! :)
 

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Some girls are just so spoilt that they don't even know they're spoilt and are clueless about their behavior being wrong. Do these girls need to be educated somehow?

I mean I understand girls respond to covert language like walking away but she'll still not understand or realise what she's doing wrong but will just supplicate the bad feelings by conforming to what I want even though she doesn't feel her behavior was wrong in the first place.

It's like training a dog, you get the end result by obedience but the dog doesn't understand exactly what it's done wrong.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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