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Shoulder Day - necessary?

PapiChulo

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My tris have gotten bigger and the shoulders look fairly undeveloped in comparison to arms. I have not been doing anything isolating shoulders at all, hence they seem to get worked pretty much with every single exercise, and I am somewhat paranoid of getting over-trained and injuring the shoulders.

The other option is to include them in the push day, with triceps, chest etc., but it seems like overload.

I ve got a push/pull/legs routine 3-4 days a week.

What do you guys do?
 

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PapiChulo

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Cool.

I ve ended up doing shoulders only today, i.e. barbell front raises, and side/lateral side raises, everything that works shoulders mainly, hence I am still sore in a few places. Also did the abs.
 

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Depends on your goals man. If you're training for symmetry and aesthetics, then you might as well focus more on underdeveloped muscle groups, such as delts in your case. If you're training more for strength/power then just focus on training the big 5 lifts and doing accessory and olympic lifts as you see fit.

I'm currently doing a bodybuilding routine, and I do a fairly high volume shoulder "module" and a tricep module together. I say module, because I frequently end up training them on different days if my schedule is tight. I'd refrain from doing shoulders and chest together, especially if you're doing high volume work as it can place a lot of stress on the rotator cuffs. Of course you don't need to worry about this if you don't have rotator issues and you're lifting light.

My shoulder day is as follows:

Smith machine wide grip upright row: 3 x 10
Smith machine shoulder press: 3 x 8
Seated lateral raises: 3 x 10
Ext. rotation: 25/side (no weight)
Anterior raises: 3 x 10 (hold weights diagonally)
Dumbell shoulder press: 10 x 10

Its really high volume, but I've gotten used to it. I really like the smith machine upright row for building back width, and the 10 x 10's at the end really beat the crap out of you! Seated side laterals are tough too.
 

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Monday-Legs
Tuesday-Middle Chest/tris
Thursday-back/bis
Friday-Upper chest/shoulders

Shoulders i do seated barbell press, bent over db lateral raise(rear delt), finish up with db shoulder press
 

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Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Shoulders and yoke are probably my best bodyparts. All I do is HEAVY overhead pressing (standing always), face pulls, some variation of a lateral raise, and that's really it. I also do shrugs 1-2 x a week with varying weights.

There is no substitute for the overhead barbell press.
 

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Colossus said:
Shoulders and yoke are probably my best bodyparts. All I do is HEAVY overhead pressing (standing always), face pulls, some variation of a lateral raise, and that's really it. I also do shrugs 1-2 x a week with varying weights.

There is no substitute for the overhead barbell press.
I'd like to second standing barbell presses. I used to use dumbbells seated, just recently switched to the standing press. This is the best shoulder workout you can do. Tough, but a great lift. I could see it as addicting as the deadlift once I lock the form into muscle memory and really start adding heavy weight.

If you haven't tried it, give it a try. I think you'll see results if you do.
 

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I think if you start hitting your delts hard, you're going to be very pleasantly surprised. Girls are always swooning about big shoulders. I never thought I could or would have big shoulders, but military presses and such have made a big difference.
 
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