"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Should you search for LTR before age 20? 25?

Do not go for LTR before age

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jebach123

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Why yes? Why not? Share your experiences both bad and good.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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bigneil

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You don't "search for a Long Term Relationship". That would imply asking a girl for a commitment.

You seek self improvement until you eventually are so awesome that women fall at your feet when you walk in the room, and then you choose the best one and she usually asks for a commitment after a few months.
 

BeTheChange

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I don't think there is anything necessarily bad about getting into LTR's early. That's what I did, and it was good experience. Though, I wish I had done that game-aware, with resources such as this to help me figure things out.

I think the hazard is that a young man might take the relationship seriously - and have it effect his school, career, or hold him back mentally.

So, I think it's best that younger men don't take their early relationships very seriously at all.
This. I count myself lucky to have had an extremely educational 3 year LTR before the age of 30. Some marriages last less time than that. Truth is, you learn a lot more about yourself in an LTR, than the opposite. The worst you have to contend with when spinning flakes is flakiness and escalation.

Much easier to develop a thick skin against rejection and next plates that misbehave than to manage an LTR with a hot, attractive women, where you pretty much have to have iron balls 24/7. To keep the best women in a perpetual state of attraction you have to BE game.

Young guys (or men in general) shouldn't be seeking out LTRs, but if a hottie keeps you interested and wants commitment, then if it's something you want go for it, as long as it something you benefit from.

LTRs are great, provided you don't compromise yourself or your long term goals. Don't let any woman keep you from seeing the bigger picture.
 

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Of course we don't look back and regret f*cking some girl 200 times, but if some of us had LTR's in our 20's it's because women chose us back then, not because we went "seeking LTRs".
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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bigneil

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I think the sad reality is, we went from a society that seeks marriage to one big orgy.

So to fight fire with fire, after perhaps my best date of my life, I still asked out 4 girls this week.
 
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