"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Should you ask a girl out twice?

sylvester the cat

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by the way. i was putting something in her desk drawer that belonged to her and i happened to find an envelope in there. on it was written '(my name), i have my eye on you.' whatever the hell that means!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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sylvester the cat said:
about ten mins later she emails me to say she cant go out with me because she's scared it will go wrong.
The above means that she does not want you. Ever.

The number of times you ask her out, or the time frame between sequence of events in irrelevant.

That's how women say "no thanks". You need to take a course of w0manese 101. Wake up.

Any IOI or her flirting are purely an AW complex. No true desire or attraction. She's not going to give that lame line and risk losing a guy that she really wants.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
The above means that she does not want you. Ever.

The number of times you ask her out, or the time frame between sequence of events in irrelevant.

That's how women say "no thanks". You need to take a course of w0manese 101. Wake up.

Any IOI or her flirting are purely an AW complex. No true desire or attraction. She's not going to give that lame line and risk losing a guy that she really wants.
hmm. i'm not so sure. there was a period of craziness that happened involving late night drunken texts and stuff which may account for her being cautious.

you can usually tell when a girl is or isn't interested, can't you? the tongue speaks lies but its usually the unconscious body language and gestures etc that gives things away. this girl's body language screams 'I want you'. text book 'tells' and not just one or two. all of them. the lingering looks, the hair twirling, the approaches when i become distant, the fleeting glances across the room, the volunteering to work alone with me when a shift needs covering, the facial expressions etc.

i know when a girl is not interested and when to hang up my hat. something tells me this is not the case with this one.

bear in mind i am dating other women at the moment too. its just this one really gets me excited. in all honesty i love that she is proving such a challenge. i love making the impossible possible. i love a challenge.

but anyway, just in case you are right - i am still following beginnerdj's advice with the no contact. it's no big deal what the outcome is really. its just fun finding out. maybe it is a case of AW but if i could change that and get her to develop true attraction wouldn't that be fun?
 

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sylvester the cat said:
hmm. i'm not so sure. there was a period of craziness that happened involving late night drunken texts and stuff which may account for her being cautious.

you can usually tell when a girl is or isn't interested, can't you? the tongue speaks lies but its usually the unconscious body language and gestures etc that gives things away. this girl's body language screams 'I want you'. text book 'tells' and not just one or two. all of them. the lingering looks, the hair twirling, the approaches when i become distant, the fleeting glances across the room, the volunteering to work alone with me when a shift needs covering, the facial expressions etc.

i know when a girl is not interested and when to hang up my hat. something tells me this is not the case with this one.

bear in mind i am dating other women at the moment too. its just this one really gets me excited. in all honesty i love that she is proving such a challenge. i love making the impossible possible. i love a challenge.

but anyway, just in case you are right - i am still following beginnerdj's advice with the no contact. it's no big deal what the outcome is really. its just fun finding out. maybe it is a case of AW but if i could change that and get her to develop true attraction wouldn't that be fun?
Some girls love flirting. It makes them feel desirable when you reciprocate. That's most likely what she's looking for.

I can't tell you how many times I've had girls flirt with me or a friend and then go completely cold when they get asked out.
 

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sylvester the cat said:
by the way. i was putting something in her desk drawer that belonged to her and i happened to find an envelope in there. on it was written '(my name), i have my eye on you.' whatever the hell that means!
It's a trap. Continue ignoring her.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I just lived this exact thing. Get out now. Iois body language, contact or no contact I don't care. You will always be backup, an orbiter. Oneitis in the making. Sorry if that's harsh, but I'm trying to save you from my he'll. Seriously, don't screw around. Ask now if you have to but don't wait, and don't revolve around her.
 

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Thing is, it doesn't matter how over the moon she makes you feel, the cold hard truth is she's disinterested. Just leave it alone, act cool, as if nothing happened, keep it professional, and hit the Dislike switch in your brain. It has to be a 2 way street. I think we all can understand your pain, but it's the only road out of massive disappointment.
 
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