"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Should women ever be the ones to make plans?

SamTheHobit

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Just want to get your guys opinion on something.

Should the guy always be making plans? Or should the women at least making plans occasionally?

I'm i that situation where I am always making plans to see her, which seems a bit unfair. IDK Thought??
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SamTheHobit

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Yes!

Women will be making the plans if they have a high IL. If you're constantly doing it, she's letting you chase her and putting in zero effort. That's a bad sign.

If I was in your situation, I'd act more aloof (less texting/calling) and make no plans for at least ten days, just to see if she does. If, after ten days, she has made no plans, go NC and see what happens. Would be a fun little experiment to test her IL and see where you stand on her priority list. Ultimately though you must move on to other women afterwards, because chances are this one has other guys.
This is pretty much my plan, Just back off for a bit and see what happens...

I'm assuming she has high interest level because she's always texting me, so theirs that. I also think I've got her quite attached to me, although I'm not 100% sure.

I doubt she's seeing other guys, but then again who knows with women these days.
 

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I always assume there's at least one or two guys in the mix she is "talking to". No biggie. They always have backups. If her IL is high enough she'll drop them and focus on you.
 

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I think it should be 50/50, as Anti-Dump would advise. But in the first couple of dates, you should be making the plans, not them. If they run along with your dating ideas, at least for the first two, that shows she would be a "flexible" partner down the road, which is very important for us! :)
 

SamTheHobit

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I think it should be 50/50, as Anti-Dump would advise. But in the first couple of dates, you should be making the plans, not them. If they run along with your dating ideas, at least for the first two, that shows she would be a "flexible" partner down the road, which is very important for us! :)
Yeah. Probably going to stop making plans with this one. See what happens.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I differentiate between "making plans" and "expressing desire to get together". A woman is wired to submit and to settle into a man's leading. She usually doesn't like (in fact, often hates) making plans for the two of you. Women are all about avoiding responsibility, unfortunately. It's her natural state.

However, she should always be expressing desire to see you. My preference is when a woman suggests something to do maybe 20 to 25 percent of the time. The other times, she should show enthusiasm in going out to do what you want to do. Regardless, the bulk of plan making is going to fall onto the man (until one is stupid enough to get married), in which case she will be making 100% of the plans. :cool:
 
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