"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Should teenagers be lifting?

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There has often been mass confusion on the issue and i think its time it were cleared up.

1.There is the opinion that teenagers should only do light weights at high reps. this is to prevent any damage and stump growth due to your bones being underdeveloped.

2. There is the opinion that the above is a crock of **** and heavy weights do nothing to damage growth etc.

What are ur opinions on this and what advice would you give to a teenage lifter(17).
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by Senior Ding-Dong
2. There is the opinion that the above is a crock of **** and heavy weights do nothing to damage growth etc.

What are ur opinions on this and what advice would you give to a teenage lifter(17).
Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of teenagers, many well under 17, have been lifting weights and if there were bad side effects don't you think they would have been determined by now?

I've been lifting seriously for about 3 months, no problems yet, only benefits, and I'm your age.
 

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working out naturally as a teen is great, you may even grow more due to increased growth hormones example doing squats. Its when you take steroids you here about teens not growing anymore.
 

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Nothing wrong with teenagers lifting heavy.
 

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you aren't supposed to start before the onset of puberty. If it were really a danger they wouldn't have under-16 weight classes at the Y.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You can start before puberty. The only reason to avoid maximal lifts before puberty is risk of injury, not fusing of growth plates.

The only thing that should be avoid by teens and pre-teens is use of steroids.
 

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i don't agree with u guys... i think that liftin' weights when u r young really slows your growth... i'm 17yrs old and i'm 5'9... i've been liftin' light weights since the age of 12... my brothers never lifted any weight and at the age of 16 and 14 they already are 6'1 and 6'2, maybe 6'3... and before i started liftin' i always used to be one of the tallest kids in school, while now i'm one of the shortest:)
 

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Or maybe mommy had a little visit from Don Juan Mail man.
 

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Originally posted by 7 Virtues
Or maybe mommy had a little visit from Don Juan Mail man.
heh

anyways, 5'9 isn't that short
 

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isn't 5'9" average hight in the USA?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Heavy lifting as a teenager who hasn't finished puberty can result in premature fusion of bone growth plates. Basically, the bulk from your newly built muscles squeezes the bones together so that they don't grow longer anymore. Instead, they fuse and stay that length permanently.

Therefore, heavy lifting too early causes premature growth cessation.
 

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I started lifting right after i turned 13.. its been more than a year and so far no side effects...
 

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Originally posted by Luveno
Heavy lifting as a teenager who hasn't finished puberty can result in premature fusion of bone growth plates. Basically, the bulk from your newly built muscles squeezes the bones together so that they don't grow longer anymore. Instead, they fuse and stay that length permanently.

Therefore, heavy lifting too early causes premature growth cessation.
Hearsay... haven't been shown stastically significant.
 

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It is most likely that early fusion of growth plates due to weight lifting injury, has been caused by improper technique and spotting.
 
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