Should some Porn be Illigalized?

[Morphiex]

i think that many forms of porn should be illigilized... especially the ones with the roleplay of incest and rape ... the ones with gangbangs and asstreching ones , the animal molesting and the ones where women is extremly degraded , like max hardcore sh\it that stuff is disgusting...

i beleive that porn is the reason why so many people get raped today, children get the wrong idea of sex by watching porn and think that having a 18 inch penis is what is required ... girls think that they have to do the stuff in the videos to be attractive to the males... its just so many complications from todays porn industry...

hey i like to wath porn i do , but i like the good porn i dont like the gore and asstreching gangbang crap they show...

 

[diablo]

While I don't agree with that sort of sexual behavior either, the fact of the matter is that it is taking place between two consenting adults who are breaking no laws. In a related case, listen to the following argument and tell me if you agree with it:

i think that many forms of video games should be illigilized... especially the ones with the headshots and explosions... the ones with guns and violence ones , the sniper shooting and the ones where people are thrown out of cars, like grand theft auto that stuff is disgusting...

i beleive that video games are the reason why so many people get killed today, people get the wrong idea of violence by playing games and think that having a 18 inch sawed off shotgun is what is required ... its just so many complications from todays entertainment industry...

hey i like to play video games i do , but i like the good games i dont like the violent and destructive crap they sell...

Do you agree? After all, they're identical statements. Going back to porn specifically, take a look at Amsterdam's rape level, and then look at the type of porn they have available to virtually every member of their society. You can walk into any sex shop (and there are plenty) and come out with a latex mold of a person's fist and forearm. You can walk into a 'video house' and flip through 130+ channels of porn ranging from girl-on-girl to horse-on-girl. Their crime rate is nonexistant, as are their rape rates. Obviously it's not just porn thats causing problems...

 

[Bible_Belt]

Crime rates are more demographic than anything.

Ironically, there are usually obscenity laws on the books, but they only seem to be used against people who really piss off the authorities. A guy got arrested for obscentiy in Lakeland Florida, but his real crime was posting war photos from Iraq that made the government look bad. The "obscene" part of his site was some innocuous wife and girlfriend pictures.

Change the v to a u in the url and look at the site. The sheriff has seized it and put up his own advertising message.

http://www.nowthatsfvckedup.com/

 

[Morphiex]

yeah i do understand your point , but video games are fabricated , people are animated in a non realistic way.
The reality of those "worlds" are false and unreal mostly .. there are no real humans in the games.

Of course porn is fabricated aswell but to the viewer it is still reality, they do show the plessure the act of the sex , its not animated its not like the man does a tripple backflip into the girls vagina , it has real human beings as they explore the pleasures of sex, this causes an psychological effect to minds of people , its like they ask themselves; is that really that pleasurable , "look how she is moaning does that mean that girls really like those stuff..."
same with girls , "wow look at her , maby i have to do those things for my boyfriend so that hel have the same plessure...."
by simply watching a act that is considered a taboo to talk about ,and theyr information is only provided by porn , this makes people think that they have to do those things because the other party wants it...

while i agree with amsterdam in some way , i still believe that porn provides a dissilusion to a already troubled mind that they require sex to be considered real men
And by being constantly turned down , they start watching constant porn where women are degraded to be simple garbage buckets for the male or males semen , they actually start believing that women arent worth anything and begin to forcefully rape them...
same with phedophiles , they watch these teen movies of girls who are actually 18 dress up as 13 -14 year olds to live out their desire to have sex with teens, but the porn actually only increases their desire to the point they actually do go for the rape....
also i think that at some point when your growing up 10-15 years old you are very influetual by the things you are around , if you watch constant titty fu\ck porn then you will have a stronger desire to titty fu\ck then regular sex when you grow up... so if in some way someone was watching a video wich had girls dressing up as teens being ****ed by middleaged males, it would pherhaps increase your desire to **** a teen when you become adult to the point where you cant restrain it...

Porn might not be the problem , but it is definatly in todays society contributing to those who are troubled...

also the problem lies with ofcourse parents and shcools for not giving proper sex-ed , and making sextalk for teens an tabu wich should in reality not be....

 

[Faca]

Porn itself is not the problem, it's what happens with it. I think it's one of the major causes of desexualization of both of the sexes.

When became the porn idustry a real giant?.. 30/40 years ago? And when did the real men began to change into the wuss/afc? I dont want to say that's this simple, but as if mentioned in the above post.. It becomming something for guys to fall on if they don't have any sex.

But i dont think that it should be illigalized, the people have the choice to watch it. But the soft-porn, or the sex in tv channels like MTV or anyother should be set to minimum. It's not a suprise that you hear now a lot more about teenage pregnancy, the women are having sex earlier then ever before.

 

[Jariel]

I totally agree Morphiex. I am ashamed to live in a society where that sort of thing is accepted. Whether it's consenting adults, acted as part of a role play is irrelevant if it caters to and encourages deviant fantasies.

I'm also of the belief that once a novelty wears off, people tend to pursue the next high, and what happens when the novelty of violent or deviant porn wears off? Where do they go from there?

To answer Diablo's argument, I think such video games are a terrible influence too and need stricter regulations, but the difference is that they don't incite arousal and stimulate an instinctive and uncontrollable urge as does porn.

 

[Jariel]

On a slight tangent, one of the things I dislike about porn is the way it trivializes sex. I remember when I was younger, a lingerie catalogue or a woman in a low cut top would set my pulse racing and get me so aroused I couldn't think straight. Back then sex was something taboo, porn and nudity was difficult to obtain, and so it was naturally exciting!

I've never been much of a porn fan, but even so I've seen enough spread legs and rampant sex scenes on screen that the sight of them means nothing to me any more. And when it comes to personally having sex, it's something I enjoy but take for granted.

I think by removing the taboo of sex and treating it as something ordinary, we have lost a lot of the excitement.

 

[seanchai]

Really good point, Jariel. I'm all for sexual freedom and sh¡t - it's the only reason I care about politics - but it sure was a lot more exciting before porn showed up.

There's so much porn on the internet. I just sit there, shaking my fist...

 

[Microphone Fiend]

just the child molestation should be outlawed (oh wait it is) Everything else is alright...except the animal stuff..the horses cant sign the waiver forms and must get teased by all the other horses about being a porno star

 

[Doggystyle]

I thought most of the things you listed was illeagal already! especially animal molesting and rape.

I don't look a porn anymore as i think it has a negative impact on me, gives you unrealistic expectations of women

 

[S1NN3R]

Many psychological studies have shown that "forbidden" fantasies being protrayed do not commonly cause the people partaking of them to be any more likely to go out and act out the activities they see. It is actually beneficial to some people with these fantasies to have access to material portraying it because it allows them a non-harmful outlet for their fantasies.

And as long as it's being brought up, we've all heard about kids that play violent video games who then go out and commit violent acts afterwards. Many more studies (and basic common sense) have shown that it's the violent, sociopathic personality of the individual that draws them to the games to begin with, it's not the games changing their personalities and causing them to commit these acts. Hundreds of thousands of other people play these games and somehow manage not to go out and kill or attack people. Again, for most people, it's a healthy outlet of aggression to play these games. It's the sociopaths who can't tell reality from fiction or have no fear of conscience of consequence who commit violence, and they would do it with or without the games. Blaming the games for violence makes no more sense than me sh!tting on a statue and blaming the pigeons just because I saw them do it.

 

[Jariel]

I recall when I was a kid, after I watched Rocky IV my friends and I wanted to join a boxing club, we started working out and sparring with each other. After Karate Kid, I joined a Karate school. When I saw Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, I and many other kids left the cinema dancing. And when my friends and I got into wrestling, we had huge wrestling tournaments in our backgardens and many people did get hurt.

After seeing glamorous war movies and action flicks, many young boys go and join the army so they too can kill people. Army recruiters make a living from exploiting this impressionability...didn't they even make a video game (America's Army, right?) for the purpose of influencing people to join the army?

Now look at the rap industry and how many wannabe ganstas it inspires. The silly bastards are everywhere, dressing, speaking and acting like they're 2pac or biggie or whoever. I've even seen fights where the guys are shouting "come on b1tch!" or "what's up nigga!" as they kick their opponent while he's down.

Ultimately everybody can be influenced to some degree. Obviously most of us have been taught morals and won't act on violent porn or violent games, but not everyone has such a strong sense of "right" and "wrong".