So I moved in with some friends of mine and after some time I began to date one of them. It is tough because we already live together. Her family all love me. I have a strong feeling that she is those types of girls that like the bad treatment of a guy and don't appreciate the good ones like myself. What drives me insane is her being so indecisive about things. She will tell me everything is good and wants to be with then maybe a few days or weeks and things pop in her head about how she feels and isn't sure she wants to be with me. I do nice things for her, have flowers delivered etc. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here? I'm a self made man that has his **** together and treats women right. Any advice appreciated! Thx S
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Should I trust her?
- Thread starter SpeedyG
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Ps. She has a slutty ass friend which if I told y'all some stories you would be disgusted. I have a strong feeling she has an influence on her. She is also jealous because of how I treat my girl, nice kind etc.., so she hates me which I dont care but I do care that she influences her.
disgustipated
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Slutty friend you say? Do tell.
Didn't even read the post but I will respond to the title...
Do not trust any woman, at all, ever.
Says she loves you...always suspect she's lying
Says she's going out with her girlfriends...always suspect it's with another man
Says she respects you...always suspect she thinks you're an inadequate sack of crap
5, 10, 15, 50 years of marriage...always believe that tomorrow she might walk out the door
never trust a woman. Never ever ever. Always expect illogical, nonsensical behavior. Remember that the wiring in their brain is just a bit off...and when that fuse blows it can always be "durrr thanks for being the best man in the world but I'm going to run off with some 20 year old mexican I picked up at home depot to clean our gutters"
and yes, that last example actually happened to a buddy of mine living in Arizona.
Do not trust any woman, at all, ever.
Says she loves you...always suspect she's lying
Says she's going out with her girlfriends...always suspect it's with another man
Says she respects you...always suspect she thinks you're an inadequate sack of crap
5, 10, 15, 50 years of marriage...always believe that tomorrow she might walk out the door
never trust a woman. Never ever ever. Always expect illogical, nonsensical behavior. Remember that the wiring in their brain is just a bit off...and when that fuse blows it can always be "durrr thanks for being the best man in the world but I'm going to run off with some 20 year old mexican I picked up at home depot to clean our gutters"
and yes, that last example actually happened to a buddy of mine living in Arizona.
Slurty friend as he banged the entire college basketball team 20+ guys. Had a baby and still stitched up went and bang a guy. Well let's say she was banging even another guy while she was pregnant. Wasn't even the baby daddy!! I don't trust her really but the indecisiveness makes me mad and insane!! It's either your with me or your not? Is that to much to ask for. She is not used to a guy caring for her so much so I guess it freaks her out. She's had POS boyfriends in the past that would cheat on her. Appreciate all the fast responses. IGetit if your out there would like to hear what advice you have your posts are impressive.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
now on to the post itselfSpeedyG said:
Indeed she is one of those that loves being abused...but don't lower yourself to be that abuser that she so desires (in reality she wants a turd to polish...a dirtbag that she can mold into the image she wants...you're a finished product and a damn good one at that.
the nice things you get for her don't matter, most women are unappreciative
I'd start looking elsewhere...granted somebody else will come with there own set of mental issues, but perhaps you will be better able to tolerate those. I'm actually quite tolerant of the "i'm not sure of you" crowd, but have absolutely no patience for say...yellers and screamers or the girls who nit pick every little thing you say or do.
Drop this headcase and move on to a more manageable headcase
And....did I mention that at first we would have sex all the time. Then came down then none for my b day. Said she was on the rag which she was. Then now she don't like sex because it makes her feel dirty like a ***** and she works at a doctors place that are highly religious and makes her feel bad when they crack jones about living with her boyfriend and such. It's been hand to man lately.
Only problem is he lives with me cause she was my roommate. Her brother and wife live there also. What to do? That's only the people I know out here and her family loves me but it would be awkward to ever go visit them.samspade said:
Because at the time It was a hell of a deal. Also wanted company since I'm so far from home. She cut off the sex pretty much because she said it makes her feel dirty but yet we used to do it all the time when we first met. What do you guys think?
Take it from someone who's still crawling out of that hell hole: you didn't do a f0cking thing wrong. She's an abuser and she's abusing you.
It's like the recurring theme of the Bourne trilogy: "Look at us. Look at what they make you give."
To be wife material, a woman must daily speak and act that:
1. He is my man.
2. I am proud of him.
3. Everything he does is OK by me.
4. Serving him is my first priority in life.
Because she wants you to say the same of her. You know, "my wife, even before my own life." Consider the contrary attitude of the abuser:
1. He is NOT my man.
2. I am ashamed to be seen with him.
3. Everything he does is wrong.
4. I never miss an opportunity to disrespect him.
Oh yeah almost forgot. Slvtty friend you say? One's best friends tend to be mirrors of one's self.
It's like the recurring theme of the Bourne trilogy: "Look at us. Look at what they make you give."
To be wife material, a woman must daily speak and act that:
1. He is my man.
2. I am proud of him.
3. Everything he does is OK by me.
4. Serving him is my first priority in life.
Because she wants you to say the same of her. You know, "my wife, even before my own life." Consider the contrary attitude of the abuser:
1. He is NOT my man.
2. I am ashamed to be seen with him.
3. Everything he does is wrong.
4. I never miss an opportunity to disrespect him.
Oh yeah almost forgot. Slvtty friend you say? One's best friends tend to be mirrors of one's self.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
scrouds
Master Don Juan
Move...
To another state.
To another state.
SecondHalf
Master Don Juan
My read on all this is that she doesn't want pushover.
If you don't want to move out, don't. Start hanging with other people outside the circle. Get some other women.
I'm don't think she would ever be someone I would bet the farm on, but it sounds like the makings of a fine plate (wet plate - for those who get puffy about the distinction). Talk about the convenient booty call.
However, if you're hooked emotionally, then it's meds or move out.
SH
If you don't want to move out, don't. Start hanging with other people outside the circle. Get some other women.
I'm don't think she would ever be someone I would bet the farm on, but it sounds like the makings of a fine plate (wet plate - for those who get puffy about the distinction). Talk about the convenient booty call.
However, if you're hooked emotionally, then it's meds or move out.
SH
In2theGame
Master Don Juan
You could be the GREATEST man in the world... it still wont be enough for some women.SpeedyG said:
I read a post before signing up for the website that I should act how I did when I first moved in. So I did, all day was funny exciting a d really didn't talk about emotions. I brang home some beer and she had food ready for us. I am shocked at the results this brung. Being more of an *******, but yet still being a good guy. I had sex last night just by doing this she went crazy on me.
Layed the law down this morning, I said if she wanted to be my wife someday to start acting like it. And I'm tired of her bull****. Her eyes got real big in worry, I said you are my priority everyday to help you. You need to do the same for me. You talk about all these people that are getting engaged and married yet you wonder why it hasn't happened to you? Because you are not wife material, consider any relationship that is happy and flows well, do they not serve each other? Give them medicine when they're sick? Food when they're hungry? She said yea like my mom and dad. Well I said if you want to get there they I suggest you start acting like it and stop being such a ***** all the time. Acting like the world revolves around your needs. What do you guys think?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.