"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Should I trust her or move on?

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Valentine Smith

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Ive been living with my girlfriend for 4 months and dating over 8. I am 12 years older. We didnt take time to get to know each other before sleeping together. When we first met all she talked about was sex and the men before I met her and her booty calls and one night stands. I tried to tell her I like to take it slow because I am looking for a serious relationship but she couldnt stop with the sex talk and we started having really raunchy sex. I mean she had no shame and I really liked degrading her because she got off on it. Now after having sex over 150 times in the first three months are sex life is dead. She got mad because I told her I wanted all the past booty calls to be out of her life and she keeps getting text messages on a regular basis from what it seems is a new guy every month. She says she cant control what other people do and I should trust her. Im really sick of having to go through this and need some advice on what to do. Should I brake up with her or trust her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Jitterbug

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They say you can't turn a ho into a housewife.

You started living with your girl only after 4 months? That's crazy!
 

jophil28

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Valentine Smith said:
When we first met all she talked about was sex and the men before I met her and her booty calls and one night stands. I tried to tell her I like to take it slow because I am looking for a serious relationship but she couldnt stop with the sex talk and we started having really raunchy sex.
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Yep, and you foolishly subscribed to the mindset that what she did before you came along was not your business and how you could transform this sex kitten into a housewife ?. She IS her past and you found out that women repeat their past. Slvtty women remain slvtty .

In her defense, she DID tell you what she was and how she intended to treat you , but you did not extract the message from her sex talk.
Women who talk like this are "hoovering " you, and you were not listening to the roar of the sound of the suction.

Dump her and learn the lesson.
 

#41

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If the sex life is dead, you've answered your own question methinks.

Hopefully you at least got to live out a few of your more deviant proclivities with her.
 

Mr.Positive

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If the sex life is dead, you've answered your own question methinks.
His sex life is dead..it sounds like hers is in overdrive!! Just not with him.

So, let's get this straight.

Red flag one: You live with a woman whom you are not having sex with, but you want to.

Red flag two: She gets text messages from different guys all the time.

Red flag three: Her past, it will predict the future.

And...to top it off, she has you completely controlled like a good little puppy. She gets mad if you beg her to stop banging other guys...wow. Never beg, cry, or complain to women. It's weak. You should be leading.

Grap your self respect, and get out of there!! Move, start rebuilding your life, better things are ahead..if you want them. It's up to you to make that decision, nobody is going to do that for you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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jophil28

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Valentine Smith said:
She says she cant control what other people do and I should trust her.

How did those other guys get her pnone number unless she gave it to them?

She is cheating on you .

"..booty calls and one night stands." THis is womanspeek for ," ..I frequently engage in indiscriminate and anonymous sex and will continue to do so.."
 

Scaramouche

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Dear Valentine,
The advice you have received is on the money,you have to leave her,she is probably a nice girl who found she could get that little lift in life by sleeping around,its a pity but she won't reform,she could easily ruin your life,move on.
 

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Check check...is this thing on?

I posted earlier but for some reason my posts have a tendency to vanish. Basically it was all about the chick being nuts, as in BPD or something along those lines. I'd say cut and run and slap yourself for not doing so earlier when she first started talking about her ex conquests. Doubly so when she pulled the "trust" card. Both are huge red flags indicating the woman isn't LTR material.
 

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Anybody can tell you anything right now but in the end it is YOU that is going to make all the decisions. enough said.
 

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You guys' posts are being deleted because you don't have your age in your profile. This is a MM rule, it is stickied at the top of the forum.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Nutz

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Colossus said:
You guys' posts are being deleted because you don't have your age in your profile. This is a MM rule, it is stickied at the top of the forum.
That's lame. I've had my age set in my profile from day one. A) I rarely notice stickies. They can't be relied on. B) If it's so damn important then they should hard-set displaying everyone's age in the forum settings. Furthermore, when an post gets moved or deleted at the MINIMUM someone needs to send a message to those whose posts are being messed around with. Call it common courtesy or common sense, but if people don't know why their posts are being jacked with then they'll keep doing the same thing over and over again. I've had some really quality postings disappear and the community is poorer for it. Good job forum admins!
/threadjack
 

speed dawg

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This guy has got to be a troll. Even the greenest of newbies don't come in here asking this type of pathetic question. It's all completely laid out against the advice that's so prevalent here. Nice try, Valentine.
 

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Valentine Smith said:
Ive been living with my girlfriend for 4 months and dating over 8. I am 12 years older. We didnt take time to get to know each other before sleeping together. When we first met all she talked about was sex and the men before I met her and her booty calls and one night stands. I tried to tell her I like to take it slow because I am looking for a serious relationship but she couldnt stop with the sex talk and we started having really raunchy sex. I mean she had no shame and I really liked degrading her because she got off on it. Now after having sex over 150 times in the first three months are sex life is dead. She got mad because I told her I wanted all the past booty calls to be out of her life and she keeps getting text messages on a regular basis from what it seems is a new guy every month. She says she cant control what other people do and I should trust her. Im really sick of having to go through this and need some advice on what to do. Should I brake up with her or trust her.

When a person tells you who they are; believe them. She's a ho. You know deep down she is which is why you posted this. Read your post again as if it wasn't you and think of the kind of advice you would give that person. Then you'll truly know what to do.
 
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You're kind of a dumb @$$.

I have a right to say that because I've done some pretty dumb @$$ things as well.

WTH are you thinking?

IF you don't dump her (which you should do but you aren't going to) then you at least need to tell her this crap is going to change - you'll see very quickly where her loyalty lies.
 

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Jitterbug said:
They say you can't turn a ho into a housewife.

You started living with your girl only after 4 months? That's crazy!
Yeah...SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING??? She controls you, not the other way around...

GET OUT NOW!!!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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