Should I text or call this really feminine chick

[jophil28]

I just think you went a lil overboard with the talk of dominance..."I am a man, and a king at that"...normal people don't say things like that with utmost seriousness, and you sounded a little frustrated with that text. Consciously or subconsciously she sees that you spent time writing that text, that you're attempting to project an image, that you care about her opinion of your image.

Remember, you're a busy man, you don't have the time or desire to write a long text defending your manhood, you know you're the sh*t and you could care less if one girl thinks you're "nice"

I agree, and I would go even further and say that Don's texts were unneccessarily aggressive and overbearing. A truly masculine man shows it by his calmness and sophistication in the face of adversity and challenge.
Don shows a poor grasp of what stimulates feminine women. He prefers to believe that speaking like a wannabe gangsta is going to send all his testosterone in her direction.
Don, she said that you HURT her with your words. Do you get what she is saying ? YOu pissed her off, and you have gone backwards, not forwards.
I doubt that you 'get it' it because you have turned the situation into some kind of victory for your self absorbed version of manliness-

Secondly, the content and tone of your texts told her that you are easily upset and that you want her REAL bad.. IF these things were not true you would not have said what you did in the way that you said it.

Know this- a new women is always going to have her own connections with others - family and friends. Getting pissed because she wants to spend time with them is not smart, and telling her off is not we mean about , "not taking any BS."

You might want to rethink your definition of masculinity. GO rent some James Bond DVDs, or some Clint Eastwood.
I can't imagine either of those guys sending hissy texts to a new woman who just wanted to go to her grandma's birthday party.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Alright,let's have a look at this...



Her saying she wasn't sure yet just means she needs a bit more comfort with you. You seemed to pick up on that when you told yourself that you needed to build a better connection with her.


Good call man.


However,you telling her that you only take yes or no answers was a mistake.


Basically,you gave her an ultimatum...and ultimatums RARELY work.



Her response was predictable. If she has a choice between doing something she feels unsure about or just playing it safe,she'll go the safe route everytime.




I know you wanted to see her,but you want it to be voluntary on her part.


You want her to come see you because SHE WANTS TO,not because you have to pressure or bully her into it.


Like I said before,good call here.

The good thing here is that you ARE LEARNING.

If you get the girl,good,but if not,at least you'll take the knowledge you've aquired here and be able to use it with the next girl.



You being "cool" to her telling you she wouldn't met you was a good move.




Uh oh. Umm,Don Jaime....you've never had a date with this girl,right?

Uhh,how do you know that her mother cheated on her father,them getting divorced,and such?


You shouldn't be talking about these types of things with this girl,at least not now.



You're trying to date this girl. "Date",as in have a sexual/romantic relationship.



You should be flirting,teasing,busting on her,asking her what she's going to be wearing FOR YOU when you two finally meet up,etc.



All those things are romantic/sexual.



You're talking to her about problems and issues. This is what "Dr. Phil" talks about. You better chill out on that type of talk,or else you KNOW where this thing is headed.







The fact that she said she wants to get to know you better first means that the jury is still out ON YOU for her.


That's a GOOD thing.


It means you still have a chance to make her attracted to you,and she's still open to it...BUT that window IS CLOSING.




I agree with CarlitosWay. I'm kinda shock you said that to her as well.


That statement was filled with both good and bad.


You telling her you don't like people disrespecting your time was GOOD,but you telling her she should "jump" when you offer her a chance to spend time with you was BAD.



And you telling her if she if she doesn't "jump" that someone else will was WORSE.

You have the concept down,but your timing is off.

You're making the same mistake as before when I told you to STOP TALKING ABOUT being masculine,and just BE masculine.



Don't TELL HER that there are other women who can take her place.


DON'T SAY THAT. She's not stupid,she know she's isn't the only girl in the world.



Just BE masculine. STOP TELLING HER these masculine things about yourself.


Just let her see them ON HER OWN through your behavior.




I would have said the same thing.

You should have just told her "OK",and that you'll talk to her later.



You told her "you're the best" and you told her that she'll see you're a cool guy.


Too much "telling". I say SHUT UP.


Stop telling her you're the "best" and just BE it,STOP telling her you're "cool" and just BE it.



The way you're coming off is like,"I'm cool. I am. No really,I am. All you have to do is just hang around me. Just give me a chance,and you'll see I'm cool.

Ha,ha,...see? I told you I was cool".



It's like you're trying to convince her that you're cool.


You talk too much in the places where your ATTITUDE and DEMEANOR should be communicating instead of your MOUTH.




While this is good,she need to SEE THIS on her own instead of you SAYING IT to her.



I think she's starting to warm up to you as well,but you don't want to BURN HER.


You need to work more on attraction and comfort,and STOP TRYING to push her into coming out to see you.




Make up sex,huh? Ok,I'll give you that one.

She seemed to get a chuckle out of it....BUT,you might want to take it easy on the "sex" talk.


You don't want her thinking that all you're after is sex.



And besides,sex with her is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION...at the moment.



If she's not comfortable enough to meet up and have a date with you,she's definately ain't having sex with you anytime soon.


You can be sexual with her,but the subject of sex itself shouldn't be discussed.



Well for one,STOP PRESSURING HER to meet up with you.

STOP TALKING about serious issues such as parents fighting,getting divorced,etc.


Be fun,light-hearted,playful. Yeah,still be a MAN and refuse disrespect,but with as few words as possible.


Flirt with her,TELL HER you want to see her,TELL HER to make herslef "pretty" for YOU when you two do meet up.



Take a look at everything I've said here. It all is romantic/sexual/personal involving THE TWO OF YOU.




That's what you want on her mind...sexual/romantic thoughts about the TWO OF YOU...not parent's fighting,divorce,or other seroius issues.



I think you may be still ok,but PLEASE...STOP TELLING HER you're a MAN and just BE one.

I was gonna give you my thoughts but IGetit just held a teaching session! haha

+1 to everything he said.


I will add that if this chick is super hot, and has a poor family upbringing, along with tons of guy friends, she's most likely a LSG (low self-esteem girl); these chicks get value through their looks, hence the legion of male followers aka orbiters.

Your still in the game here; just stop trying to hire a stunt man to DO your own stunts..... hopefully you'll understand that analogy

Your rapport with this chick is low at best. So trying to pull off the things your doing right now will not and have not worked. Be calm, cool and persistent without being desperate.

Keep on fuvkin' that other chick and hit this girl up from time to time. With all that has gone on, it would be a VERY good idea to just exchange a few texts with her here and there; build up the rapport and go from there.

If you keep that up for about a week or so; THEN ask her out, she'll be excited to meet up.




PIMP