"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I take her up on her offer?

El Payaso

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I had a rather attractive female client at work this week and while we were chatting, we found out we had a lot of similar interests and went to the same school. At the end of the conversation, she mentions that she's interning at a church and I should come to one of their meetings. She writes her number at the back of her card and gives it to me. I give her my number as well.

Today, I got a text from her. Small chit and she asks me again to come to her church meeting.

Out of curiosity, I Google the church and find a out the day she invited me, they're having a "singles event".

I'm just wondering if anyone has had any experience escalating at a church event. It's is in the morning BTW.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Skyline

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I would say go for it. She's just a client anyway, they come and go.
 

Thorninmyside

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I see three reasons why she could have invited you:

1. She connects with you
2. She thinks you're lonely
3. She's just being a friendly Christian and wants you to have a Jesus moment

If (hopefully) it's 1., I personally would ask her "Singles event huh? If you want to date me you should just say so!" and get a date on her own, not to a room with a bunch of dorky single god boys who can interupt your conversation. If she's some kind of host for the event she'll have to work the room and leave you on your own much of the time.
 

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Thorninmyside said:
I see three reasons why she could have invited you:

1. She connects with you
2. She thinks you're lonely
3. She's just being a friendly Christian and wants you to have a Jesus moment

If (hopefully) it's 1., I personally would ask her "Singles event huh? If you want to date me you should just say so!" and get a date on her own, not to a room with a bunch of dorky single god boys who can interupt your conversation. If she's some kind of host for the event she'll have to work the room and leave you on your own much of the time.

Good advice, especially the line you gave.

Personally, I've been to religious singles meetings. They're usually pretty fun, just don't go against their morals/values and you'll be fine. It's really quite normal, with minimal talk of god, if that is against whatever you believe in.

In my experience, there's lots of opportunity for 1 on 1 and gaming at these events. However, if she is a host, I agree -- reschedule. They're usually very busy and you might end up orbiting.

Or, use it as an opportunity to chat with other girls. Usually plenty there, all looking for a man.

Either way I'd use that line as an opener/entry to the convo, and either go from there to attending the party 'Well I'll give it a chance, sounds like fun, never been to one before though so your going to get to show me around' or something of that sort (that was pretty weak) but phrase it somehow so she knows you expect her to be around, and if possible, have her comply with your wishes.

Looking at Thorn's rep and history though, he probably knows what he's doing so take his advice seriously, before mine. Lol
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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piranha45

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Midnight, be nice! He's sensitive about this.
 

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Too funny, but I think Midnight is right -- get out and mix it up!
 

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I wouldn't go to a singles event at a church, you won't be in good company.

Ask her out on a date and if she declines without a counter, lose her number.
 
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