"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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should i pretend i've deleted her number? (which i have)

pete101

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there was this HB i met at the end of summer and i did ok on the 1st date but making arrangements for the 2nd i really messed up, i got a 2nd chance to take her out a 2nd time but i flopped and its been over. she was physically attracted to me but i was such an afc in person. im more confident now and i made arrangements with her via facebook to go to the mall later this week,

i asked her when she was free as part of that whole going to mall message but she just replied with a yes ok. i already said i was going later this week ( i sent this yesterday)

the mistake i made with her last time was being too full on and clingy so would it be a bad idea to make the arrangements with her for tonight, is that too soon?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Solomon

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How long was this?
over the summer? and now its Thanksgiving?

Dude move the fcuk on, you have bad case off "oneists" lol

spin some new plates

simple

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wouldn't say oneitis unless oneitis counts for more than one girl i messed up on in the past and am now trying to rekindle things but only the ones i know were physically attracted to me.

i've already got 1 now who's giving me sex but she isn't as hot as some of the others i've been out with. back to the story she's agreed to meet up again this week so i should at least go, i mean im going to the new mall that's opened right by where she lives. i won't mess up this time my game has come on leaps and bounds.

actually u guys are right, but i should still try it if she's agreed to meet up. now it's just about confirming it. i reckon you'll say she'll just flake even if i get a time agreed and sorted?

and if i chase that up a week later it'll just be me going down the same previous path.

i can't be on the basis she's free i.e. 'hey im going to the mall probably tonight at 8, you should come along'

how can i predict when she will be free or how would i even word it as to not look too available yet give her a couple of options to choose for times of when im going?
 

Solomon

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Now you are just over-analyzing

Go see her, have a great time, show her that you are a Stud now (don't over do it though)

and remember to pack protection, just in case you never know what might happen

Solo
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I second Solo's statements.

1. As far as the phone number, I'd just ask for the digits again and not worry about why. If she asks, i'd say something to the effect of either got a new phone or warranty replacement, and only my SIM card numbers kept, I didn't know her well enough to put her on my SIM.

2. I'd double/triple book myself on Saturday if I was concerned about flaking, so it's no worries cuz you have back up plans. I'd text confirm two days earlier or previous day (a short joke followed by c u Saturday ;) no asking anything), and call a couple hours before i wanna meet, let her know I gotta run some errands, and tell her when and where to meet me. I wouldn't present options, but rather be flexible e.g. if she says she can't do my time/place, I ask what she suggest. If its close/reasonable I work with it, if its out of my way, I'd let her know I'm booked and that we'll have to take a raincheck, I'll get back to her another time, and move on to my back up plan.

3. Personally, I feel that if you even have to ask the question of if doing anything is "too soon", it's definetly too soon. I take this as a sign that I need at least 1 more lady in my rotation or more hobbies so that I'm truly too busy to call, cuz I'd feel I have too much free time If I'm even pondering this question.

Have fun. Play to win, never play to "not lose." Kill the seeds of doubt.
 
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