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I hung out with my ex for a while yesterday because she was visiting a sick relative, first time I hung out with her and really talked in months. Caught up a bit, seemed friendly, she changed alot and is this big party girl now.

I wanna try to **** her again, but I think I may have blown my chances because when we were talking somehow we got to asking if either of us had hooked up with anyone we know and I told her I got with one of her friends.

She came back to my house to chill for a while but it was kinda wierd. There was definate flirting but she was also being cold to some extent, and there was no hook up or anything. She kept bringing up how disrepsectful it was for me to get her friend, even though she is the one who broke up with me to which I argued. She said it didn't hurt her or make her jealous, but she was obviously a little angry at least.

I suggested we should go out and do something later this week and she said that would be nice. But again like I said she seemed somewhat cold at points and the friend thing seemed to piss her off. She also seemed to have to make it known that she was over me and going with other guys and doing her thing. I told her I'd call her and we'd set up a day to go to the movies. Does it sound like she's just doing this to be friendly or should I be able to get some ***** outta this, because if not then it's just a waste of time.
 

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she may have said it didn't hurt her, but it did or she would not have brought it up at all, let alone more than once.
 

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All these views and no responses?

Some other details about this girl, she broke up with me because our relationship did get stagnant and boring, which I can say was true as well. We hardly went out ever and our sex life went down the drain becuase of our emotional detachment.

Does it sound from everything i've posted, that I have a chance at getting her in bed or is it more of her just being nice because of my situation?
 

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penkitten said:
did my response not count?
Na it's just you didn't really answer the question of what this situation seems like. I think she is probably bothered by it, but I'm wondering if I should even go through with this movie date with her or just blow it off. She didn't seem all that enthuiastic about going, so it almost feels like shes doing it out of pity, yet at the same time she was pretty flirty when we chilled.

But she also was openly talking to me about what she's been up to, and how much more she loves the single life and how our relationship was so bad. I don't know if she's just being there for me cuz of my family or if she might be attracted to me again.
 

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even if she is still attracted to you , the pool has been p1ssed in, and it can never be the same.
she doesn't see it as she broke up with you first, giving you power to go out with whom you chose. she sees it as although you broke up, you should not have dated her best friend. she thought that was off limits. she will bring it up whenever she wants, especially when she wants to get her way.

smells like trouble to me.
 

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TheBaconator said:
I hung out with my ex for a while yesterday because she was visiting a sick relative, first time I hung out with her and really talked in months. Caught up a bit, seemed friendly, she changed alot and is this big party girl now.

I wanna try to **** her again, but I think I may have blown my chances because when we were talking somehow we got to asking if either of us had hooked up with anyone we know and I told her I got with one of her friends.

Why the heck would you tell her this and why would you do it in the first place? That is totally disrespectful. Imagine if she told you she banged your friend yesterday and now wanted to bang you.

She came back to my house to chill for a while but it was kinda wierd. There was definate flirting but she was also being cold to some extent, and there was no hook up or anything. She kept bringing up how disrepsectful it was for me to get her friend, even though she is the one who broke up with me to which I argued.

If you broke up with her and she banged your friend, would you be ok with it?

I suggested we should go out and do something later this week and she said that would be nice. But again like I said she seemed somewhat cold at points and the friend thing seemed to piss her off. She also seemed to have to make it known that she was over me and going with other guys and doing her thing. I told her I'd call her and we'd set up a day to go to the movies. Does it sound like she's just doing this to be friendly or should I be able to get some ***** outta this, because if not then it's just a waste of time.
If you're just trying to sleep with her, do whatever you want. There are no rules if you just want to sleep with her. You might as well go because not going will ensure you won't sleep with her.
 

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Well the reason I went with her friend was

A) She's hot and I already knew her so figured it would be easier
B) Part of me was vindictive because of the ex

And why I told her is because when we were talking I don't know how but we got into how many we've hooked up with since the break and I asked if she did with any of my friends. She said no and didn't ask me and I said "so your not gonna ask me" with no intention of revealing it, but her response was "lol none of my friends would want you". So I guess ego stepped in and let it out.

I don't think it was disrespectful at all because she broke up with me because she was not in love anymore and she shot me down the only time I tried talking to her months later wen i asked to just go out for coffee. She obviously wasn't interested, so why should she care who I get with? Why should I hold back on any woman to appease someone who broke up with me for other options?

To answer your question, if I had broken up with her and had no more feelings for her then I wouldnt care if my best friend hit it. I actually had a freind get with one of my exes who I dumped and didn't give a ****.

I don't know right now if it's worth a shot. I don't wanna go out and get shot down again by her but at the same time I miss the sex because I haven't gotten anything since the break. She knows this as well and she's had one other partner. I know I probably shouldn't have told her but I didn't care because we are not getting back together, and also if we do end up fuking she would let me go raw again most likley.
 

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Your first mistake was trying to get back with a woman who rejected you and basically said with her rejection of you that you were worthless to her life.

All this time she has been fvcking other guys and if your friends are the type of friends many of the AFC winners keep around them on this site you can rest assured she has fvcked them too.

She is smarter than you though so she has kept quiet about it and has let you bury yourself to her with your mouth ie you telling her about fvcking one of her friends.

She has the upper hand now because of your additional mistake.

So yeah losing situation all around, cancel any date you have with her and go on with your fvckin life and find someone new.

This is a losing self defeating scenario.

"Because she's hot" is not a valid reason for a DJ to try and get with a woman that has previously disrespected him.

Stop being an AFC, get some respect for yourself and get some options.

Odds are if you landed a hot chick like her once upon a time you should be able land equally or even hotter chicks anyway for christsakes.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Your first mistake was trying to get back with a woman who rejected you and basically said with her rejection of you that you were worthless to her life.

All this time she has been fvcking other guys and if your friends are the type of friends many of the AFC winners keep around them on this site you can rest assured she has fvcked them too.

She is smarter than you though so she has kept quiet about it and has let you bury yourself to her with your mouth ie you telling her about fvcking one of her friends.

She has the upper hand now because of your additional mistake.

So yeah losing situation all around, cancel any date you have with her and go on with your fvckin life and find someone new.

This is a losing self defeating scenario.

"Because she's hot" is not a valid reason for a DJ to try and get with a woman that has previously disrespected him.

Stop being an AFC, get some respect for yourself and get some options.

Odds are if you landed a hot chick like her once upon a time you should be able land equally or even hotter chicks anyway for christsakes.
I appreciate the input, it's not that i'm trying or tried to get back with her. I totally cut her off but due to a family member being ill she contacted me to get information about visiting her and to see how I was doing. It was then that I just talked to her and felt attraction again.

But you are right, this ***** disrespected me, and all I was thinking of doing was getting some ass because I haven't gotten anything since breaking up, about 4 months ago. So that's why I was considering it, by no means would I ever go back out with her after the disrespect, I was just kinda hoping for a FWB situation. It's just hard not to think with the little head when you haven't gotten any play in so long.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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