"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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They're all on the pill until they "accidentally" get pregnant. You can talk about the pill with her in nodding agreement until your blue in the face. It doesn't make a lick of difference.


OP I've never worn protection and never will and I'm paying CS up the ass. If her hindbrain is looking for seed (which procedes the forebrain which looks for a wallet) you might be it Mr. Oh yeah and you can't get out of it either trust me I've tried. It's up to you whether or not you want to roll the dice. That's all it boils down to. No amount of mental masturbation here will change that.

Best advice in this thread.

Like tits said, you can talk about BCP until you turn blue, but at the end of the day it is YOUR responsibility to use protection.

I've never been one to use condoms after the first time or two with a girl, and I freely admit I am taking a bigger risk. I think you are really infatuated with this girl right now and you are looking for some validation on not using a rubber. It's your choice. Just remember that 10 seconds of bliss and jizz may end up in 20+ years of child support. It's a risk we all take, some of us just choose to mitigate it as much as possible with multi-modal birth control.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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his thread is actually quite interesting

I don't think either is wrong, but it's intreiging how when i saw his post the FIRST thing that came to my mind was getting an STD. However for some the first thing that came to mind was getting pregnant.

I fear getting a STD more than I fear getting a woman knocked up and paying child support. That's just me. I am not saying I don't fear knocking a woman up, but it's only second to getting a STD. i had a cousin die of AIDS when i was really young and that **** shook me up. I've always been really careful about that type of stuff.
 

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You met her on POF and fvcked her on the first date. But she claims to love Jesus....I'm sure she's not a slut then.

I would always exercise extra caution with girls you met on POF.

My thoughts exactly...POF, first date fvck...come on Reyaj. Hate to break it to you but you aren't the first man to squirt DNA up her canal.
 

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I love how guys on here complain about the BS and shvit tests girls put them through to get some poon... but if a girl likes someone and gives it up she gets labeled as a slvt..

Again, this girl is NOT on birth control. I asked her... I don't care... she is from middle America, white and a church goer. No she isn't a virgin.. and yes I'm not the only guy to put it in her...

Its a risk... for sure it is... but she likes me... and she had sex with me... it feels good... Can I really not enjoy some consensual unprotected sex with this woman without having any repercussions? In this grind of a life we live in... is that not allowed?????
 

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Your first stop should be your bank. Withdraw all your money. Make a nice fat roll of hundred dollar bills and fu©k her raw with that. Next stop is the std clinic. Take your remaining cash and throw it at the front door.

A baby or a std is a game changer. Quit fantasizing over stupid sh!t.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Seriously you should "suit-up". Other people can be deceptive or she may not even know she has an STI, then of course what if you mess up and your chances get ruined for a longer term relationship because of early stupidity.

If things work out you can later down the line both get tested and go without a condom.

Just my opinion.
 

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Reyaj said:
Its a risk... for sure it is... but she likes me... and she had sex with me... it feels good... Can I really not enjoy some consensual unprotected sex with this woman without having any repercussions? In this grind of a life we live in... is that not allowed?????
Sure it's allowed man but what do want us to tell you?? Do you need some placating to make you feel less uneasy?? Mental masturbation wont change reality.

Pretty much all of us have had raw dog sex, but like Samspade said it is a calculated risk. LTR, BCP = lower risk. ONS or STR, no BCP = HUGE risk. Come on, you're a grown man. You don't need our approval. Go nuts and jizz all over the place. Just take 100% ownership if you catch an STD or she conceives a whelp.
 

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Reyaj said:
No she is not on the pill. I asked her and she admitted she wasn't. I wasn't planning on ejaculating in her.... I just wanted to do her raw for a little bit... then either have her jerk me off or put a condom on and try to *** in it...

Backbreaker you can't generalize that all girls on POF are dirty... I already went raw in her a few weeks ago and also ate her out... She has the hottest looking pvssy I have ever laid eyes upon.

To put it in presepctive, I never go down on girls and I am fantasizing about eating her out right now. Ok going to rub one out

Alright once the bragging starts about how hot she is, a pic is required. Let's see a pic buddy?
 

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Malice said:
Alright once the bragging starts about how hot she is, a pic is required. Let's see a pic buddy?

She is hot to me but thats all that matters. Can I post pics on this board?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I'm going to post personal info I've never shared with anyone in my real life. I've never had an STD and I've gotten 1 woman pregnant. With the exception of 2 women, one being a prostitute, I have never used protection. Yes, I know how this sounds, but it was a bad habit I developed and never bothered breaking. When I was in my early-twenties, I spoke with my doctor about unprotected sex, pregnancies, and STDs. 15 years later and now I know everything he said to be true.

My advise is as follows:

- The pullout method works as long as you pull out.
- After pulling out, do not reenter until you've urinated.
- Do not trust the woman's cycle to determine whether pulling out is necessary. It's the only time I got someone pregnant.
- After sex, urinate.
- Always wash after sex.
 

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I tried pulling out once. We had pulled over to the side of the road on a way to a party for a quickie. Got it all over her dress. The rest of the night she just kept complaining to me about how she was sure everyone could see and smell it on her dress - even though we had cleaned it with paper towels and water.

By the way, some women seem to enjoy the mess. In them, on them, dripping down their legs.
 

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its funny how some people convince themselves that their truth is the only truth there is.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Per a doctor I talked to:

Pulling out does work rather effectively if the semen has been cleared from your ****. Make sure to urinate before sex and afterwards. If you bang a chick, ***, and then re-enter, the chance of pregnancy rises. I would only bang a chick raw if she was on the pill. If not on the pill - NO WAY.

But I will say that you are an IDIOT to not wear a condom when screwing anyone you found on POF. Online dating is full of wackjobs. Odds are you are one of many guys she is screwing. WEAR A CONDOM YOU FOOL!!!!
 

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Fine this is her... For what its worth I don't care if you all think she is ugly.. I find her extremely attractive and she looks better in person!

http://tinypic.com/r/107rpkh/5


Jules thanks for the advice.

Danger, stop sweating my posts.. are you still bitter from the last threads I put you in your place on?

Sam I agree I've had the same experiences.. its funny cause you'd think women would be more cautious about it since they take more of a risk. I almost think they want to get pregnant sometimes

Also I keep hearing everyone say not to go back in her until you urinate... I am assuming this is after ejaculation you mean right? Like if I am doing her and my scholong comes out... I can put it back in without higher risk?
 

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Reyaj said:
Fine this is her... For what its worth I don't care if you all think she is ugly.. I find her extremely attractive and she looks better in person!

http://tinypic.com/r/107rpkh/5


Jules thanks for the advice.

Danger, stop sweating my posts.. are you still bitter from the last threads I put you in your place on?

Sam I agree I've had the same experiences.. its funny cause you'd think women would be more cautious about it since they take more of a risk. I almost think they want to get pregnant sometimes

Also I keep hearing everyone say not to go back in her until you urinate... I am assuming this is after ejaculation you mean right? Like if I am doing her and my scholong comes out... I can put it back in without higher risk?


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WTF @ Urinating...wuuut

You gotta understand guys who KJ have frail ego's hence half their posts are inflame wars but you will never see any post that isn't subjected to real life experince
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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