"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Should I go for it?

lugsy211

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Hey all!
I'd appreciate your opinion on my situation, but first off I'll give you some quick backround info.
About a year ago I made the decision to clean up my wussy nice guy act up because quite simply I hadnt got a girl in 2years. Nope, you heard that right, even Ugly McObese didn't have the hots for me.

First of all, I began to change my attitude. I have lots of talents so I basically started responding to compliments with ****iness rather than modesty and even the embarassment I had previously. I now basically flaunt what I have and have realised the amount of progress I have made with females in general.

Okay, so to the point. I've had my eye on two girls specifically and cudn't pluck up the courage to strike up conversation. So I put myself out there- I joined 2 clubs in the school and became an immediate hit with the girls, even if they are only 6s and 7s. I got to know her immediate friend more so that I could subtly enter their 'group'.

Now I'm basically at the stage where I think she sees me as 'a cool new friend'. I think theres interest but I'm just not sure if there is enough.
Is it the right time to ask her out for a casual date? OR should I keep at this, my original target for a date was pre-2006 but doesn't really seem feasible anymore.

Any comments, be brutal if you wish.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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lugsy211

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Apologies: in the third paragraph the first 2 girls I refer to are definate 10s. and the other 'girls' are just ..well the other girls.
 

Docs

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Coffee is awesome, and so underrated. Use it as a conversation starter - "Do you like coffee/hot chocolate"..."Do you want to get some later?"

Edit to the Edit: There is no such thing as a HB10.
 

Morphiex

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read the dj bible, its there for a reason mate... yeah i know its a really looooong read but trust me itl help you out in many ways u dont even know ....

the link is to the top right of every page around this forum....

read it once, then read it again , then apply it to the way you live your life , dont do the things as directly as told there ,

peace =)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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