"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Should I give her my number, or what?

ARrocket

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So, the girl that sits next to me in band class has been showing VERY high interest over the last week or so. Tons of kino from her, etc. Today, we were talking about winter and I say to her "let's go ice skating this weekend." She says "well I don't really have any free time...let me think." I say "Tuesday" and she says "I'm not free Tuesdays," and then proceeds to say "hmm I wonder what day I'm free." I'm thinking "wtf??" So anyway, to end that, I just said "well why don't you tell me tomorrow" and she says "yeah, sure." I say "wait...I won't see you tomorrow" (I won't be in class) and she says "yes you will, I see you in the hallway after 3rd period" to which I reply "yeah, I forgot, you stalk me." She laughs and hits me on the arm. I say "give me your number just in case." She says "I don't have a phone..." I look at her like she's a moron. She then says "I don't have a house phone right now." I say "well give me your cell #" and she says "hmmm....you know I don't even know it." I just kinda say "wow you're real smart" (sarcastically) and begin to walk away, and she says "I'll give it to you tomorrow."

wtf?? I have NO idea how it came to this, but all I know is that tomorrow is the last day before spring break. I was thinking of asking this girl to prom, so I need to get the ball rolling here as prom is approaching soon. I probably see her for about 3 seconds in the hallway tomorrow. Do I ask for the number? Seems kinda AFC to me (like our whole conversation :( ) Another thought I had was to just hand her my number written down. What do you guys think?
 

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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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wow...

Hmmmm...I would walk away from this one for a bit. She "could" have been just nervous, but my instincts tell me she was trying to give you a casual brush off...many times...

Kicking back, and not giving her attention for the time being will be to your advantage no matter what was going on becasue:

a) if she was brushing you off, you can kick back and mack other girls, showing her you do not put up with girls who only talk to you for the attention...

b) her interest level will raise (either way)

c) if she was interested, she'll come to you, leaving you in control, as opposed to her...

make sense?
 

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yeah I guess she's just the flirty type. She may like you but I can't tell. HS chicks are really hard to read. They're so moody.

Try and isolate her to get her number and take it from there. If she doesn't give it to you then forget about going to prom with her.
 

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Yeah, I flirt a lot with other girls around us. In fact, she just transferred to the school this semester, and I ignored her for a god 3 weeks, all the while letting her see me flirt with other girls (not on purpose, but in hindsight...lol). Then like 2 weeks ago we got to talking, and I've NEVER been this sure that a girl was interested in me before. If it turns out she is just a flirt, she had me 100% fooled (and I'm not easily fooled...I've seen a lot).

The thing is, tomorrow is the last day before spring break, so I won't see her for awhile. You guys don't think I should just give her my number and put the ball in her court?
 

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

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So, when is prom? It seems you're acting a little desperate. Don't give her your number, but get her's. If you don't get it tomorrow, then she's missing out, and you can let her know in a subtle way when you back in class with her after the break.

Ask her for her number when you see her. If she gives you **** again, act as if it's perfectly ok with you, and walk off. This will cause her to think about you and think whether she has blown it with you (if she really is interested).
 

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Because it's desperate. If she won't give you her number, she surely won't be calling you.
 

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Ok. So if I give her my number I'll know whether or not she's interested for sure, but if she's not, then it's a lost cause.

But if I don't and just walk away, then ignore her, then I'll know she's not currently that interested, but there is hope for the future.

Is that what you're saying?
 

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When is prom?
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I assume that spring break is only a week. If so, you'll have 26 days or so to work on it.
 

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Glad I could help. Remember to not let a woman know she has you under her thumb. Sometimes I play as though I like them and when they think they know they have me, I change my game. I'll stop calling or texting. Basically, I never ever initiate conversation via phone, internet, or text (this doesn't mean you have to do this, but it works way better for me than my old AFC habits). They always start, and I always finish. When I'm done talking, I'm done, and
i leave. So, treat her as if everything is on your terms.

If you were to give her your number, she'll probably be thinking you're desperate and waiting by the phone throughout spring break. Since Spring Break is next week, you should act as if you've forgotten about her because you're so excited about your big plans for the week regardless of whether you do or not.

You are an exciting person who does exciting things, and she can't wait for her excitement with you.
 

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ARrocket said:
Ok. So if I give her my number I'll know whether or not she's interested for sure, but if she's not, then it's a lost cause.

But if I don't and just walk away, then ignore her, then I'll know she's not currently that interested, but there is hope for the future.

Is that what you're saying?
yeah man don't give her your number. It will almost definitely come off as being desperate and needy. I honestly can't remember a time I gave a girl my number or e-mail and she actually contacted me (back in my AFC times btw, I don't give girls my info anymore I get there's).

I have kinda mixed feelings about asking for her number tomorrow. I mean if you ask and she gives it to you then that could be good or bad. Maybe she's just giving it to you to shut you up. Maybe she's just trying to be nice. Does this girl flirt with a lot of other guys or do you seem to be the only one?

See if you get her number before spring break by the time you guys get back she may have forgotten she gave it to you. You kinda implied that you weren't going to call her over spring break. As a result you would have waited almost 10 days before you even see her again. So unless you plan on calling her and setting something up over spring break then don't ask. edit: don't ask period. I suggest you try what I said below.

HOWEVER, I don't think you should ignore her when you see her tomorrow. Just act normally and see if you can start a quick conversation. Try to find out what she's doing for the break before you think about attempting to get a number (I'll deal with this in a second) so you know what she says will be the truth. If you ignore her it'll be AFC for sure. Act like the same DJ you've been around her.

Now, I don't recommend you asking for a number. What I think you should do is get her to offer her number to you. (BTW this only applies for tomorrow not after Spring Break. If this doesn't work you'll have to ask when you come back.) You know, see if you can be C&F about her being flaky yesterday by not giving the number to you. BUT DO NOT PRESSURE HER ABOUT IT. If she still doesn't offer then just go about your business as usual. DO NOT show her that you care you don't have it. Pressuring her will be AFC and turn her off for good.

However, even if she doesn't offer the number don't be upset. Girls generally don't offer their numbers and info to guys. They try and be really subtle to get you to ask for it. If she does not offer you still have a chance I think since you are so sure about her (and I believe you). Just get the number after the break and take it from there.

Let us know how it turns out tomorrow.
 

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I don't trust women younger than me. NEVER give a girl your # without getting hers. It seems this one is trying to lead you wrong. Get yourself a cougar!
 
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