"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

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Should I drop this female "friend" ??

the_stig

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A few months ago I started hanging out with a fitness instructor from my gym. We've got drinks a few times but agreed to 'meet as friends', however by her body language I wouldn't doubt there's some attraction. She always initiates convos on facebook.

We're both on POF and have been at odds for the past week after a conversation about it went south. She didn't believe it was a hook-up site, so I told her that i'd had a few ONS and flings from it. She responded with "Well sluts run rampid in this city. That doesn't make the site a sex stop, nor does it make it okay for you or ANY man to treat a woman as such. I gotta go". She also made a comment before that about me being "fvcked in the head" because I was going clubbing with a girl from POF and jokingly asked her to wear a skirt and stripper boots (she agreed anyway). We haven't talked again since.

Saw her at the gym a few days ago. She noticed me on a machine and slowly walked past like she was waiting for me to make eye contact, but I just ignored her and pulled out my ipod like I was changing songs. Otherwise we quickly look away when we're near each other. Were her comments disrespectful, or is this a dumb thing to lose a friendship over? I was offended, personally...
 

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That was disrespectful. I would have ignored her too.

Going forward though, I would recommend that you not mention your other hookups to women. They are the first to criticize us for it, while they have their secret FBs stored in their phones.

Let her sense that you are a player/ladies man. Don't verbalize it.
 

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talking about hook ups with other women is a no no.. If you feel like you want to verbalize it you need to be tactful about it.
 

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I agree with the replies above.

She handled situation bad but i suggest talking to her again only because you're learning about attraction and such now. For right now only drop a girl if shes 'really' disrespectful or doesn't respond to your calls for 3+ months -

After you learn and get better then you can start dropping chicks when ever you like. Until then train yourself to not give a damn if girls don't call or act like morons, its just part of learning curve. its not that big of a deal, but most guys make it a HUGE deal, when its not...
 

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Either she's a drama queen, or is testing you. Either way, you are handling the aftermath well. Agree, do not talk about your conquests. What good has/can it come out doing that?
 

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WTF? Anyway, She propably did what she did cause she got jealous! Why the hell would she get angry? She doesn't know that men and women fack? She got angry because it was YOU that facked not a random guy! (Since you said she likes you this is the truth) I don't think it's a disrespect in the way you think it is! She couldn't handle how easy you said such a thing! So, no, don't ruin your wannabe friendship with her (cause it's not a friendship anyhow) and next time try to find another way of telling a woman that you have facked other women! It's not wrong to do, but you have to do it the right way! If you have said "I have dated a few women from POF" she would have understood that you had facked some of them but you wouldn't have been so curt!
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
WTF? Anyway, She propably did what she did cause she got jealous! Why the hell would she get angry? She doesn't know that men and women fack? She got angry because it was YOU that facked not a random guy! (Since you said she likes you this is the truth) I don't think it's a disrespect in the way you think it is! She couldn't handle how easy you said such a thing! So, no, don't ruin your wannabe friendship with her (cause it's not a friendship anyhow) and next time try to find another way of telling a woman that you have facked other women! It's not wrong to do, but you have to do it the right way! If you have said "I have dated a few women from POF" she would have understood that you had facked some of them but you wouldn't have been so curt!
So a guy meets a girl at place ZYX they start getting to know each other a little and he says "i've met girls and had one night stands and flings at place ZYX"

You are saying she is "jealous of him getting laid" instead of the pretty obvious observation of he indirectly applying she was a a slut because he met the ONS/FLINGS at the same place he met her.

Wow.. lol
 

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the305 said:
So a guy meets a girl at place ZYX they start getting to know each other a little and he says "i've met girls and had one night stands and flings at place ZYX"

You are saying she is "jealous of him getting laid" instead of the pretty obvious observation of he indirectly applying she was a a slut because he met the ONS/FLINGS at the same place he met her.

Wow.. lol
WTF man? Did you even read the post? he met her in the gym not in pof! She was just a member there as well! Also they had been talking for a while before this happened!! Not when they met each other! The guy said he understood from her body language that she was into him!!
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
WTF man? Did you even read the post? he met her in the gym not in pof! She was just a member there as well! Also they had been talking for a while before this happened!! Not when they met each other! The guy said he understood from her body language that she was into him!!


Sorry if I wasn't clear. Her body language has hinted she is attracted to me, but nothing physical has happened between us. We're friendzoned, but if the circumstances were right I don't doubt we'd do more just from the tension between us. Hell, she did agree to go to a the strip club with me. We usually share our POF dating stories with each other and I simply told her about the ONS/Flings to prove my point about it being a hook-up site.
 
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the_stig said:
Her body language has hinted she is attracted to me, but nothing physical has happened between us. We're friendzoned, but if the circumstances were right I don't doubt we'd do more just from the vibe and tension between us. We usually share our POF dating stories with each other and I simply told her about the ONS/Flings to prove my point about it being a hook-up site.
So I stay on my first statement! :p Thanks :)
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Agree, do not talk about your conquests. What good has/can it come out doing that?
Who wants to become a number? "Oh you're girl # 459 for me" *SLAP*. While you have to expect that this person has dated other people before, you would not want for them to brag about their other dates. Just like how you would probably not feel comfortable if you were with a girl and she started to talk about her Ex or an upcoming Hot date with someone other then you.
 
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