"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I met a really cool and cute girl at a club this weekend, we talked for ages, had lots of laughs and flirted with each other a lot, she even complimented me on how good I look for my age.

But I think I have gone and done something dumb, I asked her if she wanted to exchange numbers when we were chatting on msn today and she told

hmm, feel a bit weird doing that, exchanging numbers, i don't really know you well enough


I am guessing this is a polite of saying forget about it?

I'm not afraid to say that I am still quite rusty at the dating game, but girls do talk and flirt with me and buy ME drinks.

Any help would be appreciated.:up:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I am guessing this is a polite of saying forget about it?
Yup. You could have said "it's okay, I'll only call you 11 times a day because I have nothing better to do."

But no matter. If you talked for "ages", then she'd give her #. There's zero interest, pal.
 

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oh well. My opinion is to game on anyway...however I wouldn't do it online. I would stay off MSN for a while then one day randomly get on, and when she asks "where have you been?!?" Tell her You've been busy lately. Make sure she knows you have better things to do than sit around on MSN all night playing tiddly winks.

Maybe her interest in you will climb...but you gotta play the game now, don't go stright to the number/date thing.
 

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I don't think you did anything dumb. Don't base your opinions on what any one gal does. You and her talked at the club a long time.. you then chat.. and then she says she won't give you a number caz she doesn't know you that well.. WTF???? It's just a phone number. She's already been with you face to face, and that went well.

IMO, women really spend more time talking with their own insecurities, than talking with the guy in front of them.

With all that said, best us guys can do is just increase the odds a gal will get over her FEARS of being sociable (ya, they have fears analogous to our fears of approaching, etc). You approached her in a respectful and sociable way. She addressed fear, not you.

Juggler recommends that when the conversation is at a high point, suggest that you get together again, or ask for the phone number then. She's feeling great, her fears are set aside, she figures she just wants more of that, so why not give you the digits?
 

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Phyzzle said:
Yup. You could have said "it's okay, I'll only call you 11 times a day because I have nothing better to do."

But no matter. If you talked for "ages", then she'd give her #. There's zero interest, pal.

That was kind of you to tell someone that you don't even know that I am a stalker...I hope you feel really good about yourself.

I didn't even think to ask for her number on the night and bull**** there is zero interest...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Thomas94305 said:
I don't think you did anything dumb. Don't base your opinions on what any one gal does. You and her talked at the club a long time.. you then chat.. and then she says she won't give you a number caz she doesn't know you that well.. WTF???? It's just a phone number. She's already been with you face to face, and that went well.

IMO, women really spend more time talking with their own insecurities, than talking with the guy in front of them.

With all that said, best us guys can do is just increase the odds a gal will get over her FEARS of being sociable (ya, they have fears analogous to our fears of approaching, etc). You approached her in a respectful and sociable way. She addressed fear, not you.

Juggler recommends that when the conversation is at a high point, suggest that you get together again, or ask for the phone number then. She's feeling great, her fears are set aside, she figures she just wants more of that, so why not give you the digits?

Thanks for being intelligent and honest

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Is she an American? If so, then she should know the reason a man asks for her number IS so that she can get to know him!! :rolleyes:

Quit using the computer to get a chick that you met in person already - it doesn't work. Don't chat online with her anymore - thus she will be forced to communicate through the phone if she wants to set up a date!!
 

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So wait, howd you get her email and not her phone number? You shoulda got the number at the bar yo.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Is she an American? If so, then she should know the reason a man asks for her number IS so that she can get to know him!! :rolleyes:

Quit using the computer to get a chick that you met in person already - it doesn't work. Don't chat online with her anymore - thus she will be forced to communicate through the phone if she wants to set up a date!!
nah she is a New Zealander (well traveled though)...

that's good advice...thanks
 

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WaRpEd said:
So wait, howd you get her email and not her phone number? You shoulda got the number at the bar yo.

she has it on a forum I visit a lot and you can send private messages as well.

I don't really care to be honest, I was just curious and wanting to learn from it if I had messed up.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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best thing you can try do is try see her again and put the game on her. girls don't care how much they know you if they're sexually attracted.
 
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