"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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should i call her?

King_Supreme

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first lets get this str8, im not needy or desperate (im currently sleeping with 3 different chicks right now) so i dont care if this girl is interested or not but i do want some advice on what to do here.

met this girl last wed on the bus. gave her a call on thursday (fvck the 3 day rule). she picked up and said "who is this". i reminded her and she said she was busy and would call me back which she didnt. (strike 1, she only gets 2)the reason why i called so soon cuz im not about 2 call a girl on a fri or sat. more than likely she already has plans. besides sat was sweetest day. some of yall dont have that where your from but its like valentines day but the women treat the guys.

now im thinkin bout callin today which for any other chick i definitely would but since me and this girl go 2 school together and we catch the same bus i tend to see her at the same times and places every mon and wed. so im thinkin bout sayin screw phone call #2 cuz she might pull that busy crap again and i'll have to next her, but instead when i see her 2morrow just go and say hi and start a convo. this way ill be able to spark her interest in me again that may have been lost over the past few days. and then if she shows no interest i'll next her. so should i call today or wait to see her 2morrow.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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King_Supreme

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everybody wants to view but not leave any advice. ok. i think ill just do it my way and get at her 2morrow in person.
 

arutha

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Yep thats what I'd do. If you're going to see her tomorrow anyway, screw calling now. Be a little surprised to see her, get on the bus and glance around then suddenly notice her, smile, approach and talk.

And yeah, I want the sosuave of 2004 back. Back in myyy day this place was full of awesome people always wiling to give advice, and they had much stronger attitudes. Its a bit soft here now, but better than another forum I visit.
 

Pimp-sicle

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Yeah bro, definitely don't call again, at least not so soon. If you see her on the bus on a regular basis, build up the attraction and rapport again. Personally I just start escalating the flirting on the bus for a couple weeks and see how she reacts. If she's all over you, fuvk calling her, you can either ask her to hang out right then and there or make her start chasing you.

Too many guys next girls too quick based off of one phone call. The reality is, that most women, even average chicks have plenty of dudes chasing them all the time. You need to set yourself apart from the pack.

Don't call, build attraction and make her chase you and add her to the list of b-itches your pounding.





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