"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I Buy A Girl Coffee On The First Date??

gottagetthatgirl

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Hi,

basically I decided to meet this girl off that plentyoffish site. Im meeting her for coffee and was wondering should I pay for her coffee or not? Is it good to pay for this or not on our first meeting/date? Thanks
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Falcon25

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Stop being a cheap ass fuvk. Not gonna kill you to buy a four dollar coffee for a girl. You're the man, act like you can afford to date. Sheesh. Fuvk is the matter w some of you????
 

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If she's ugly in person, then don't buy her coffee. If she's a girl you'd might wanna fvck, buy the coffee.
 

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gottagetthatgirl said:
Hi,

basically I decided to meet this girl off that plentyoffish site. Im meeting her for coffee and was wondering should I pay for her coffee or not? Is it good to pay for this or not on our first meeting/date? Thanks
who suggested the date?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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gottagetthatgirl

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I suggested the date. So im saying, to make myself look more appealing to her should I buy her a coffee or not? If she looks good I should buy her a coffee right? Thx
 

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Is this thread a joke? Are we really arguing a four dollar coffee date? To tell you the truth, I don't think you deserve this date. Why would you not want to buy this girl a coffee, it's four fuvking dollars man. How old are you? Is this what dating has come to? To worry about who pays for a four dollar coffee? You're the man, act like it.
 

teacha

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you suggested it, so you gotta pay.
 

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Try Cold Stone instead. You don't her breathe smelling like coffee.
 

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To the OP. Buy an extra hot coffee for her and 'accidentally' spill it on your lap.

Sue the establishment.

You'll be a McDonaldsesque millionaire then and won't need to worry about buying coffee for women any more. They'll flock to you regardless.

Money made and woman attracting problems solved.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Hes not asking for the price, hes asking because he doesnt want her to think and to look like another afc who thinks buying a girl things will make her like him
 

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If you don't want to risk looking like a cheapo then just show up to the date 10 minutes late, tell her you got caught in traffic. She'll naturally get her coffee and go take a seat. Ya, I've fvcked a bunch of girls even if I was late to the first date or even all of them for that matter. You then get yourself a coffee sit down with her and chat then if things are still going well you can exit the coffee shop and begin the second part of the date at which time you can buy her an ice cream or whatever from mcdonalds.
 

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You invite a girl on a first date and expect her to pay? That shows a lack of social skills. "AFC" has nothing to do with it.
 

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Its either 1. a lack of social skills 2. a guy who specializes in what I call $0 Game. Amazing how much girls will buy for you if you just ask. Not everyone's cup of tea though.
 

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As a former cheapskate let me tell you...

Don't let a couple of bucks get in the way of getting laid.

A great website I found is restaurant.com. You can get a $25 gift certificate for $2. Let me tell you, my date to f*ck ratio as gone up dramatically.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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As a former cheapskate, let me tell you, don't let a couple of bucks get in the way of getting laid.

Once I stopped being such a cheapskate, my date/f*ck ratio went up dramatically.
 

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If you are going to buy her coffee DON'T STAY IN THE DAMN COFFEE PLACE!

Buy her damn coffee (and get one for yourself also so it doesn't seem akward) and head out to do something fun right away. Go bowling, go play pool or whatever.

Just make sure this isn't a coffee date. Don't stay there chatting like a nice little puppy holding a coffee in your hand in the coffee place. Go show this girl a good time somewhere where you can incorporate some kino.

Having a cup of coffee and a nice, comfortable chat in a coffee place is what she does with her girlfriends. You need to show her a good time and have a good time yourself as well.
 

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GreatHornedOwl said:
You invite a girl on a first date and expect her to pay? That shows a lack of social skills. "AFC" has nothing to do with it.

BINGO
 

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you should buy her the coffee shop, if you cant afford it - you shouldnt go on dates until you can.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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