"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I bother trying to salvage this potential hookup?

2BA

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Ok so there's this girl in one of my labs whose number I got close to 2 months ago, but I've never called cause I've been weird. Here's basically what happened.

First day of lab I sit next to her and simply ask her "Is that book the lab manual" She says yes, then I get up and talk to the lab TA for a bit because I forgot my lab manual. It didn't matter cause it was just an intro lab, only lasted maybe 15 mins. So then I go back to my desk and ask her a simple question about the class "Didn't the prof say everything on the test was in the posted online slides/pages? I always see people taking notes during lecture and think why?" She laughed and said yea she never took notes and just listened.

Then I introduced myself and stretched out my hand and she shook it. Then we walked out of class together and I explained I was a transfer student, and we talked a bit about the class, then she had to catch her bus to commute home.

The next lab I just ignored her completely (we sat at different tables, cause I came late).

Then the lab after that I ignored her again, but as I was leaving the lab I saw her fiddling with her bag in the hallway (almost like she was waiting for me,but not sure) then I started talking to her again, and walked her to the bus stop, where we talked a bit about school, the fact she commutes, the fact I lived pretty much on campus, and she ended up giving me her number(I said "hey whats your number we should study some time)(as she gave it to me I said "sorry I forgot your name", since I had..)

Every other lab except one I've completely ignored her. The one other lab I didn't ignore her she was dressed a little sexy with her midriff showing and I talked to her a little bit about the test, but didn't say much, and at the end when everyone was supposed to clean up I just walked away from her and I heard her sorta laugh to herself. Probably cause the whole time I kinda acted like I didn't already know her. Then as I left I saw her talking to her friend in the hallway and I asked her if she was going to go see the exam from an exam we had just taken and she said no. The whole time she was with her friend I was trying to enter the convo and she pretty much just ignored me, so I left after about 10 minutes and walked a different way without saying bye or anything.

The next lab when I entered she was facing the door and I think she smiled at me, but I wasn't looking at her directly. Every other lab since then I've completely ignored her. Except for one moment when she was waiting outside the lab to take the lab quiz, and since my group was done first as I left I said to her "it was easy" but she didn't even look at me. The only things that make me think she might still be interested is that the lab right after that time I said "it was easy" she was seated at the table that I usually sit at, but I sat at another table since there were no stools there(but I coulda moved a stool). Also she came in dressed with a fairly low cut top one lab and was looking at me as she left, but I never once looked at her directly during that lab, and it was all peripheral vision I was using.

So yea... what should I do here? Contact her? Ask to study? She doesn't say much at all in the entire lab, pretty quiet which I like about her, but she was pretty loud/opinionated one time when talking about a prof. My problem is that even though I think that she might be attracted to me I subconsciously think/realize I'm a pretty boring guy and am worried about what to talk to her about other than school. Also there does seem to be one girl she knows in the lab, and she clearly must talk about me to her, cause two times the friend has laughed/giggled when I've done something that involved the girl. Once she was standing on the table behind me and as I tried to move out I hit her ass with mine and said a low sorta "sorry", and another time I just looked at her quickly. So her and her friend might think of me as a sort of joke or something. So is this salvageable? What should I do to hookup with this chick?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Mantis Toboggan

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2BA said:
So is this salvageable?
Why wouldn't it be salvageable? After all that long, long story, all I learned is that you rarely speak to her, and you think she looks at you.

You're studying for this situation like it's a f**king midterm, man. You want to know if she's interested? If it's salvageable? If she hates you?

Say, "Hey. What are you doing after class? I'm in the mood for some coffee. Let's go." Or replace "coffee" with a bar, a show, a museum exhibit...who cares.

She'll say yes, or no. And then you'll have your answer. No more worrying. No more caring. It's just like getting a needle at the doctor's office. Do it, get it over with, and then stop thinking about it.
 

blueline

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Fucking get it over with for god's sake. Just say "let's grab a coffee after class -yourname"

This has to be a troll.
 
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