"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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should i ask her to be my gf?

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hey so this girl ive known since last year but didnt talk to much till this year is into me. I think so. She hugs me at random times, calls me... and on fcbk,.. she wanted to "marry" me. So what should i do? She's def into me. I like her too. Should i just ask her to be my gf? Or wait or something.


PS. how do you ask someone to be ure gf? I've been told u shouldnt say "will you be my gf?"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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go for it man, ask her out to a movie or to ur place or somthing. theres no special way to ask her, just ask her to be ur GF
 

Five To One

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You dont just spring that question on a girl, even if she likes you.

Have you started dating, let alone go on one date with her?

commonreactor is right, ask her to go see a movie with you or come to your house but dont ask her to be your girlfriend on that first date. On the first date you should focus on having a good time with her and getting intiamate with her.

If you really do like this girl then it should naturally go from dating to a serious relationship(she becomes your girlfriend).

After dating for 2 months my now ex-girlfriend, I finally decided I wanted her to be my girlfriend. But I never asked her to be my girlfriend, I just introduced her to someone as my girlfriend. Thats how I let her know. Its not something you should have to ask her, it will just turn into that.

I can write a little more about the transition from just dating a girl to her accually being a girlfriend if you want.

You sound new to the forum btw.
Your aim shouldnt be to make ever girl who is interested in you, your girlfriend.
Read the dj bible if you havnt already, theres a link to it at the bottem of the page
 

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i did ask her to go see a movie. She said she'd love to but her parents are being *****y about letting her out and stuff... so yeah.
 

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Next time you and her are walking together from the school, pull her to your side and tell her to "close your eyes. I have something secret to give you." At a high school level, she will close her eyes without any problem. Then plant a kiss on her lips. She'd be chasing you...

-amoka
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Next time you and her are walking together from the school, pull her to your side and tell her to "close your eyes. I have something secret to give you." At a high school level, she will close her eyes without any problem. Then plant a kiss on her lips. She'd be chasing you...
 

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Next time you and her are walking together from the school, pull her to your side and tell her to "close your eyes. I have something secret to give you." At a high school level, she will close her eyes without any problem. Then plant a kiss on her lips. She'd be chasing you...
 

Five To One

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How old is she?
I use to try to date a girl but she would always flake on me, even though she liked me. She just wasnt mature enough and got too nervious every time we made plans.

She would agree to something and then the day of she would cancel on me claiming that her mom was mad at her or something lame.

I had to make her feel real confortable in order to coax her into hanging out with me, after that first time it was flake free.


I forget what I said exactly but I told her something like "how about you just come over to my house for a bit and watch a movie with me, we can just hang in my basement, my parents will leave us alone."

I tryed to make the date sound as least threatening as I could.
 

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she's 16. She's really mature though, not one of those attention *****s or anything.
 

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good for you, you found a mature girl, bad thing is, shell be harder to get bc shes not an idiot, but thats still a good thing too

i say go with amoka's plan, but maybe you should do it at the end of a date like a movie or something. just be sure to keep your distance and make sure u dont look desperate or free all the time, keep yourself busy.

gl bro
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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oh just kiss her like that? Idk, im gonna be chilling with her a little bit after school in a few days. So what just kiss her .. ? That seems a little abrupt.
 

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Kiss her only if its appropriate.
If she is having a good time on the date with flirting, kino, a little sexual tension, it would be inappropriate to not kiss her.

If the date is going to hell then springing a kiss on her wont save you, it will make things worse. Use you best judgement here.

but dont be afraid to mess up sometimes, thats how you learn.
And what you learn out there is much more useful than what you learn at this place.
 

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TheCommonreactor said:
good for you, you found a mature girl, bad thing is, shell be harder to get bc shes not an idiot, but thats still a good thing too
"Girls" and "not idiot" all in the some sentence? Wow.
 

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Whatever you decide, let her know in some way that you are interested.

If you already have her attraction, waiting is usually bad.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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oh we kinda met up at the library today (kinda like an excuse to get away from parents) and ended up going to the mall and wandering for a while. Going through stores. Then we sat at a bench.. and i think that was my time to put my arm around her shoulder or something but i didn't do it! what kind of an idiot am I! I mean, it officially wasn't a date, it was a study at the library, but we got done wayy early... u get the idea. Next time im definitely doing some kino to let her know that im interested. If she does the same back, i ll ask her.
 

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eh okay, i already know her and we already hung out. I freaking hate myself for not doing anything >_>
 

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Heres something easy you can try.
Next time you guys are sitting and you want to bring her in closer say "watch this move I picked up" and then obnoxiously swing your arm around her slowly like your trying to be slick, just like when they show it in the movies.

She should be laughing at your lameness at this point so laugh with her and pull her in close for a kiss without skipping a beat.

You can follow it up with "wow I cant believe that worked" and then continue on with the date like normal.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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