"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Should I add a cute girl on facebook in order to game her?

VastanVer2.0

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I've met this girl a couple times through some old co-workers. Don't work with those girls anymore, so the chance of runnning into her is low. One of her friend's posted a picture on facebook of a group of them (2 girls I know and the girl I'm talking about). I was bored so I write "Kool pic. Btw, your friend's cute". Both the girl in question and the girl who posted the pics both replied with "lol" and "hehe" (along other comments in which they were messing with each other). I'm thinking of adding this girl on facebook in order to try gaming her. Yay or nay?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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VastanVer2.0 said:
I've met this girl a couple times through some old co-workers. Don't work with those girls anymore, so the chance of runnning into her is low. One of her friend's posted a picture on facebook of a group of them (2 girls I know and the girl I'm talking about). I was bored so I write "Kool pic. Btw, your friend's cute". Both the girl in question and the girl who posted the pics both replied with "lol" and "hehe" (along other comments in which they were messing with each other). I'm thinking of adding this girl on facebook in order to try gaming her. Yay or nay?
First of all, it's always better to tell her out (I refuse to say "ask" her out from this day forth) in person. Buut since that opportunity has passed and you're not going to see her in person any more.. Go for it. What have you got to lose?

Don't get too upset if you end up disappointed. Getting dates from an online interaction isn't as easy as you may think.
 

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No.
 

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y not?

If you fb her you can at least see if she has a boyfriend or not.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'll just say this.. I used to always try to get girls on my facebook asap, thinking it would be in my favor. Lately i've found that I have much better luck when we aren't facebook friends, and there's probably some very good reasons for that; keeps some mystery about you, girls will judge how cool or popular (read: desireable) you are based on your profile etc. The only time I use facebook now would be if i'm meeting a girl from an online dating website and I want to verify that she looks like her pictures. It's saved many times from fatties who post deceptive pictures.
 

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the_stig said:
I'll just say this.. I used to always try to get girls on my facebook asap, thinking it would be in my favor. Lately i've found that I have much better luck when we aren't facebook friends, and there's probably some very good reasons for that; keeps some mystery about you, girls will judge how cool or popular (read: desireable) you are based on your profile etc. The only time I use facebook now would be if i'm meeting a girl from an online dating website and I want to verify that she looks like her pictures. It's saved many times from fatties who post deceptive pictures.
^ ^ WINNER


Also read this:


Facebook, Myspace, IM = DEATH!!!!!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=173877
 

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I'd just message her to get her number and leave it at that, you can do that without having to add her on FB.
 

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the_stig said:
I'll just say this.. I used to always try to get girls on my facebook asap, thinking it would be in my favor. Lately i've found that I have much better luck when we aren't facebook friends, and there's probably some very good reasons for that; keeps some mystery about you, girls will judge how cool or popular (read: desireable) you are based on your profile etc. The only time I use facebook now would be if i'm meeting a girl from an online dating website and I want to verify that she looks like her pictures. It's saved many times from fatties who post deceptive pictures.
This.
 

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Htienvu said:
I'd just message her to get her number and leave it at that, you can do that without having to add her on FB.
So you'd just message her and be like "hey, you should give me your number" without any fluff talk at all?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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VastanVer2.0 said:
So you'd just message her and be like "hey, you should give me your number" without any fluff talk at all?
No. That's not what he means. Does that sound right to you?

If your name is Little Billy, then you'd say something like, "Hey it's Little Billy. It was cool hanging out with you. We'll have to do it again some time. What's your number?"

The goal is to avoid having long, extended conversations on Facebook. Either get rejected from the start or get the number from the start.
 

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Iceberg said:
No. That's not what he means. Does that sound right to you?

If your name is Little Billy, then you'd say something like, "Hey it's Little Billy. It was cool hanging out with you. We'll have to do it again some time. What's your number?"

The goal is to avoid having long, extended conversations on Facebook. Either get rejected from the start or get the number from the start.
That's what I meant! Keep to to 1-2 message maximum, no point wasting time beating around the bush when she will either say yes or no, no matter how many times you message her.
 

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Htienvu said:
That's what I meant! Keep to to 1-2 message maximum, no point wasting time beating around the bush when she will either say yes or no, no matter how many times you message her.
Yeah, that's a possibility. Though now that I think about it I'm wondering if there's a way to manipulate her friend into bringing her around so I can have a crack at her face to face. That may be a better situation. Maybe I'll just invite her friend out on the town and tell her to bring her friend (not subtle I know, not trying to be).
 

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So I was feeling pretty ballsy tonight after number closing a girl at a club. So I send a msg to this chick and I'm like "So not beating around the bush anymore. I think your cute, I think we should grab a drink sometime. So send me your number and we'll figure this out."

Mistake? Maybe. Do I regret it? **** no. If she overreacts that's her problem, I'm just doing what I want.
 

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VastanVer2.0 said:
So I was feeling pretty ballsy tonight after number closing a girl at a club. So I send a msg to this chick and I'm like

"So not beating around the bush anymore. I think your cute, I think we should grab a drink sometime. So send me your number and we'll figure this out."
Theory is right, technique needs some work.

1 - Don't tell a girl ÿou are not beating around the bush", just don't. It's like those guys who tell the girl Ï don't want to play games." Well guess what? As soon as you tell a girl that, she starts playing games.

2 - You have to distinguish yourself from every other guy who wants to screw her brains out. "You think she's cute" doesn't set you apart from anyone else. You knowing how to play guitar like Slash and wanting to teach her, now that may get her juices flowing.

3 - Give me your number and we'll figure this out? What's it in for her - a free drink or the ride of her life? Come on bro, you have to be more subtle. Even if you are a sex machine, she doesn't know that. You got to give her something that tickles her funny bone, gets her juices flowing, sells what you are offering.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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