Should high school and college kids avoid PUA?

[Rolled Stones]

I am on Wordpress since I have a year old blog I rarely update but a few days ago I ran into this new blogger who came up on my Wordpress reader. Usually I would ignore new bloggers but I noticed that he gained a massive following in a short time.

Apparently the guy is a former Incel that over a year of trying things turned into a player. The guy talks about the importance of looks and style a lot on his blog.

Decided to give one of his posts a read and it attacked PUA and talked about why high school and college kids should avoid it. Surprisingly this is the first time someone has attacked PUA and I have agreed with them all the way. This post is just special and I feel like a lot of kids heading to college should give it a read.

http://formerlyincel.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/why-high-school-and-college-kids-must-avoid-pua/

 

[Rolled Stones]

Depends on the size of the college I guess. DJ material will work in even a small college though. PUA misses the inner game and depedestalization aspect of being a DJ.

you "guess"?

dude if you are a don juan you have to be sure of yourself you can't guess

 

[handle]

Well, I would say that the core important lessons (take care of yourself, talk to people, put yourself out there, stop having this weird idea that women are untouchable) are good things to have. If you can instil in yourself a healthy outlook on male-female interactions and get over any awkwardness, that's probably all you need. College usually comes with a built-in social sphere and things to do, so you can ignore like 95% of PUA advice.

Of course there's exceptions. If it's a hardcore commuter school or you live alone far from campus, you may use some of the PUA material as a "crutch" at the beginning. But really, I would say 90% of the problems people have with women in their teens/early 20s are easily solved by just being social.

Everyone is in the same boat. Nobody in college has any idea what the **** they're doing. Everyone secretly thinks they are awkward as ****, you just don't notice.

 

[Eph]

After taking a look at that site I have to disagree. For example, from my personal experience, negs are pretty useful. Most people just refer to it as teasing, and everybody does it. Its a natural thing the author seems to want to demonize. They don't make you look like a douche (granted you don't do it every five seconds), they make you seem normal.

As long as you're not overdoing it, a lot of pua stuff isn't all that bad.
I think the author just has a problem with pua and the sort.

 

[Rolled Stones]

After taking a look at that site I have to disagree. For example, from my personal experience, negs are pretty useful. Most people just refer to it as teasing, and everybody does it. Its a natural thing the author seems to want to demonize. They don't make you look like a douche (granted you don't do it every five seconds), they make you seem normal.

As long as you're not overdoing it, a lot of pua stuff isn't all that bad.
I think the author just has a problem with pua and the sort.

I think you are being too partial towards PUA here. I like it but the author makes some strong points.

 

[Zarky]

OP, I don't know what you're talking about. A PUA is a person.

 

[bluenorther]

"Should high school and college kids avoid PUA?"
Not necessarily... My first exposure to seduction was David Deangelo, and reading his e-newsletters. It occurred to me that a lot of his stuff is so basic, it should be taught to 8th graders. Men starting over after a bad divorce need a refresher, from page 1. It isn't enough to tell people to put themselves out there, you also need to empower them, so they feel good about getting out there. Much of PUA is really evolutionary psychology and David D gets into that, too; Lovesystems takes it a lot further.
I told a woman friend about studying PUA and said that the more I understand women, the more I understand myself... what women expect from me, and what I should expect from me.

 

[devilkingx2]

the author has an agenda

that stuff is only true if the following applies to you:

1. you go to a small school

2. you act like howard wolowitz(from the big bang theory) pre-bernadette about them(stereotypical creepy loser and no GF) and take your misunderstandings of these techniques to their logical extreme

3. somehow, SOMEWAY, all the girls you talk to find you SO EVENTFUL that they talk about you in detail with enough people for your rep to spread across THE ENTIRE CAMPUS

 

[dutchmaster]

Dunno, managed to develop a pretty solid inner game thanks to this site which has helped me greatly in college. In fact I credit all of my success to this site and personal experience.

I'd suggest it, give this a read.

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/213066

 

[Caravaggio]

Eh, blogger's reading into game the wrong way.

I learned game as I returned to college to finish my degree 3 years ago and I found it an awesome testing ground to hone my skill. There are few other places where you have such an easy opportunity to test your ideas and learn approaching. My peers were on average 8+ years younger than I and being a shameless horn dog served me fine.

Sure there were plenty of rejections but it's a numbers game, remember? If you feel awkward or creepy doing it, that's exactly how your going to come off.

Learning game is about developing your own game and owning it.