"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She's testing if I chase her - what to do

joker79

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Guys, after a really successful first date with a girl I attracted (with lot of confidence and strong body language I should say), I've the feeling that she now testing me in order to understand if I chase her acting unavailable and teasing (faking she has other dates). I'm not sure if she has a bf or not but she showed me really IL interest. What sould I do? acting cool and relaxed and wait for her move I think, she won't lose attraction if I'm cool. What do you think?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Mantis Toboggan

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Do the same thing you'd do for any other chick. Invite her out for a date. If she rejects, try once more. If she rejects a 2nd time, then NEXT.

No point in trying to figure out the "games" of some girl you've been on 1 date with.

You're trying to convince yourself to chase her because you thought it was a "really successful" date. But you don't really know that.
 

Renegade357

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joker79 said:
What do you think?
Don't think about her games man just bottom line her actions. Wait a week and ask her out again but make sure you have an original date idea planned. Don't just take her out for drinks or dinner and a movie or something dumb. Make sure it's fun and original.
 

Mantis Toboggan

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Renegade357 said:
Don't think about her games man just bottom line her actions. Wait a week and ask her out again but make sure you have an original date idea planned. Don't just take her out for drinks or dinner and a movie or something dumb. Make sure it's fun and original.
Drinks is fun.

Guys get themselves tripped up when trying to be "original".

I plan original dates for girlfriends. For new girls, drinks and conversation get me everything I need.

We shouldn't over-plan dates for girls who haven't yet earned it.
 

Renegade357

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Guys get themselves tripped up when trying to be "original".
If you mix things up with some kind of activity it takes the pressure off the date. It's easier to keep things light and fun that way to where you'll both be relaxed and positive. It doesn't have to be anything crazy but a little different/fun. There can also be drinking involved which is always good if she actually drinks. I think it's important to stand out from the other 5 guys that are after her without looking too try hard.

I dunno, I've had pretty good success doing it that way. Not to brag but I've got my share of battle scars so I may be a little more advanced than some of the other guys on here. I like to test a girl out early to see how flexible she is. I also know enough of their tricks to where I weed them out early now. That's really my goal in the first 3 dates is to give them their walking papers if they're not up to snuff.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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joker79

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I'm gonna play it light and cool, I've f**** up too many times my good results at the first stage with an anxious approach. We kind of agreed for the weekend, let's see if she flakes. Honestly I think she expect me to chase her a bit or to initiate contact, I'll try to avoid any beta behaviour
 
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