"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SHE'S SO PERFECT... how do I deal with this?

Deadly_Ripped

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I've never met someone so perfect in my life. She likes all of the same things as me, she's far more athletic than me (and I have a 6-pack (almost an 8-pack now) and run regularly), she's got rich parents, she's double majoring whereas I'm only single majoring, and her blond hair, blue eyes, tasteful piercings, fantastic breasts, and flat stomach blow me away every time I see her. And all of that would be manageable, but to top it off she's funny, has a similar sense of humor, has the best smile I've ever seen in a woman, and likes to read the same type of books, and we like to watch the same movies.

She and I met randomly, twice in the same day and only said hi. Then she adds me on facebook... then i hang out with her, get a FANTASTIC *******, then her friend (also my friend) tells me she thinks i might be only tring to hook up and she's a long term relationship kind of girl. So then we hang out, get along GREAT, and I kiss her goodnight. Then i invite her to a party and she declines to watch tv with 2 guys across the hall from her. Then 2 days later i say we should go out wedsnday night but she's got class till 9 so im like ill rent a movie then after a while she's like I usually study with so-and-so after that class. That last part was today.


I AM GOING FING INSANE thinking about her and just waiting for her to reject me and could use some advice on how to play this....
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Bro don't trip. So are you saying that you layed her already,"then i hang out with her, get a FANTASTIC *******"?
 

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Yeah... it was the 2nd best ever, and I've had like 14 different girls gobble the knob....


But now it's all about personality becaus she wants to take things really slow and I don't mind beacuse she's so ****ing incredible like we have everyting in common but she's damn good because she's not letting on her level of interest at all...

I'm just buggin out beacuse I don't imagine she'll stay interested if she still is.
 

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Deadly_Ripped said:
Yeah... it was the 2nd best ever, and I've had like 14 different girls gobble the knob....
Maybe she doesnt normally go that far that quick.

Example;
I went out with a chick it was going awesome! Couldn't have it better,she was all over me and vica versa. I went to her house,fooled around,I felt up on her & French kissed,hung around for a little longer and then left. As I left I went to kiss her but instead she went for the tongue route,alright I thought she was cool with how the night went. She wasnt interested after that. I talked to one of her friends and she said that she was kind of scared of how far I got her to go on the first date so she drew the line there.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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So she says.

Not being a d!ck, but always keep your eyes open. :woo:
 

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Whoa, whoa, settle down tiger. She's the one supposed to be on her knees sucking you off, not the other way around.

She is just another girl. She is to be treated absolutely no different. You do not chase, you do not slobber, and you sure as hell do not put her on a pedastool.

The method for turning girls into girlfriends never changes. The only thing that is variable is a guys attitude towards it. That's where you need to chill and relax, play it like you would any other girl.

One-itis and attachment is not your friend.
 

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That's the problem... I have women and girls all around me who are just another female.

When I put her on a pedestal, I put her just above me, and that's what is so scary. No woman has EVER given me an impression that would bring them close to the pedestal on which I place myself.

I mean I don't let down on my game, and I make her laugh, but DAMNIT I mean she's one of those super people you see, and you know who I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the two beautiful people walking down the street in their columbia jackets or business attire (beacuse they work hard and play harder), getting in their BMW (she owns a BMW motorcycle), and going somewhere to a beautiful house to make babies and live in passive aggressive tolerance of each other until the kids are gone and by then they're too damn old to leave each other so they enjoy the tax break while they've got it.

I see her being one of those people, maybe even a little happier.
 

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If it was any other girl, I'd just **** her and she'd stick around for at least a few months until the sex got old if she didn't get really attached. This girl is cerebral AND sexy.... a winning combo for me (a biochemistry major with a decent body and his sights set on a PhD). I mean what more could i look for in a girl?

THAT'S what's got me stressed out. She's too ****ing perfect in my eyes. So perfect.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She's got to have some flaw that you know about. Focus on that. No girl is perfect.

If you can't think of one, don't reply saying she's perfect again because then you're fvcked and have already lost her...and it will make me puke :rolleyes:
 

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dude... You better play your cards smooth and not **** this one up. She sounds like a good girl... But if I were you I'd be in it more for the sex and not the relationship... If you can keep that attitude, you can own...
 

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"i hang out with her, get a FANTASTIC *******,"


Um, what did he get a fantastic?
 

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Deadly_Ripped said:
Yeah... it was the 2nd best ever, and I've had like 14 different girls gobble the knob....


But now it's all about personality becaus she wants to take things really slow and I don't mind beacuse she's so ****ing incredible like we have everyting in common but she's damn good because she's not letting on her level of interest at all...

I'm just buggin out beacuse I don't imagine she'll stay interested if she still is.
when a girl says she wants to take things slow it is because she really wants to take things fast and doesn't want to look like a slut

That is anit-slut defence.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Deadly_Ripped said:
I'm just buggin out beacuse I don't imagine she'll stay interested if she still is.
Why not?

Why don't you just be who you really want to be and let HER decide if she's interested or not?

Unless who you really want to be is somehow "not good enough"...and if that's the case...why?

Seriously, man...chill. I've been in the same situation. And I've made the same mistake. Have a little faith in yourself.
 

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(Un)fortunately, I haven't had this problem recently...

Sounds like you got a real winner. But she got some buyer's remorse and ASD kicked in - which is part of what makes her a winner.

Anyways, I would back off and give her some time.
 
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lol Perfect.. you sure?

She gave you a BJ right away and now your hearing stuff about her worrying your just out for sex? lol

lol you just like her money.
 

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What does ASD stand for?

Yeah I'm not going to talk to her online or on the phone unless she calls until wednsday when it's time to hang out. Anyone here think I should let her call me even if that means she doesn't call and doesn't get back to me aboue wednsday night?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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