"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She's mad I'm seeing another girl - How to deal with her..

PectoralisMajor

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I'l keep this brief.

Seeing girl 1, sort of official, but for the time being i'm saying its casual.

girl 2 is an ex, and we hit it off last weekend unexpectedly. We had sex in nearly every position imaginable, and I know we both had a great night, and enjoyed each others company, despite problems in the past.

Here's the problem: after the great night, she finds out that i'm casually seeing girl 1 -I explained its not official. Still, She is truly p1ssed by this, hurt, upset and says she cant trust me anymore, and that i've betrayed her.

I've been keeping a low profile trying to let things cool down a little.

Whats my goal - The evening with girl 2 was the best, rekon she thought so too. I want more of the same, but how can I keep her on side? any suggestions...I know before she found out about the other girl she wanted more.

Normally I'd pick the best girl, which in this case is girl 2, but we've gone out, broken up times in the past, and I doubt it could ever work long term. Not wanting to sound like the bad guy, but she goes pyscho once every month if you know what I mean, and starts wanting to argue about nothing. That was the problem in the past.

Any ideas with how to handle girl 2? I should also add she's a part of a close circle of friends I have, so I definately dont want to fall out with her, in case it has knock on effects.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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the mistake you are making is getting defensive.

let me get this straight.. a good looking, up to snuff guy (you), has a woman before you came into his life!

say it isn't so :rolleyes:!!!
 

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I sort of laugh when people say things like "official" - WTF does that mean? It's never official until you sign a contract dude.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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backbreaker said:
the mistake you are making is getting defensive.
I say it's that he let his personal life be known. That's the thing that women have over guys, when they cheat they keep their mouths shut.
 

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People... better yet... some hatten ass men call me a player.. hwoever I play no one. I put all my cards on the table with every woman. it's her decision to sleep wtih me or not. I'm not out to fool anyone. I have my options and I have my standards... some choose not to and I'm cool with that. I'm not changing my core belifes over some pink wetness
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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So let me get this straight...Girl number two, an EX...is saying YOU BETRAYED her, and she can't TRUST YOU????

Damn, talk about reframe.
Oh well, if you're only theres for the sex, and don't care about her, lie to her. Tell her that you broke it off with Girl Number one. After all a crazy chick like that doesn't deserve fairness, and honesty. She's delusional.
 

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Unfortunately, the ex found out from a friend I was seeing this other girl. I never let nothing slip.

I would like to tell her I've dumped girl1, but she WILL find out from her friends its not true. This could place me out the circle of friends if everyone finds out ( yer thats right - I'l be the bad guy...)

We were talking about using blindfolds in bed and all sorts together before this all kicked off.

Nobody has come up with any options, other than 'Interceptor' & 'backbreaker'. Are we out of ideas guys? am I screwed? maybe backbreaker has the right idea....

cant I have my cake and eat it....b@lls...
 

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Since subterfuge is impossible, boldness is the only way.

Ask your ex, "do you want me to dump that new girl? Really?"

"Yes."

"Oh. Well I'm not going to."

Even if she yells at you, cusses you out, that doesn't really mean she won't be back for sex soon.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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PectoralisMajor said:
Unfortunately, the ex found out from a friend I was seeing this other girl. I never let nothing slip.

I would like to tell her I've dumped girl1, but she WILL find out from her friends its not true. This could place me out the circle of friends if everyone finds out ( yer thats right - I'l be the bad guy...)
How do you keep track of all the people who know about (or butts into) your personal life?
 

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Simple answer - its a minefield.

Play the strategic game, try to keep everyone happy, and most importantly of all, STAY IN the good books of the leaders of the pack who make arrangements for the group to meet up...

Better still - become one of the leaders :rolleyes:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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PectoralisMajor said:
Simple answer - its a minefield.

Play the strategic game, try to keep everyone happy, and most importantly of all, STAY IN the good books of the leaders of the pack who make arrangements for the group to meet up...

Better still - become one of the leaders :rolleyes:
Keep everyone happy? Impossible...
 
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