"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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she's engaged... she likes me. what to do?

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okay i don't know her in person but i been talking to her everyday online pretty much. she's always looking for comfort and she finds that with me. when she has a crappy day she messages me. she always calls me darling and what not. rarely talks about her boyfriend. i even said to her today: "i don't like this pretending stuff." and she replies: "we're not pretending."

she even says she loves me and that she doesn't know why i'm still single... that i'm sweet and cute, blah blah. she's 28 btw. i'm 23. she looks very young though. she stated once that: "i'm happily engaged." yet she keeps doing all this nice stuff to me. we have both told each other that we like one another. she said if she was in my city she would meet me for a hug :S

anyway. what should i do? keep the flow going and wait until something happens to her and her boyfriend or ask her about it and what's going on. i have no idea what her relationship is like. and YES i know if she cheats on him she'd do the same to me... but i dont think shes one to cheat. i'm thinking just wait a bit, see what happens. although it kills me that i dont know whats going on with us. she really does like me and i like her.

p.s: she's been with the one guy for the past 7 or so years.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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you are a moron

i hope her fiance shoots you for being such a slimey *****
 

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This thread makes me cry

Because I'm laughing so hard.
 

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tony-montana said:
anyway. what should i do?


You should setup a date. If she starts saying no no, tell her it's alright, we going to be together and alone, no one will find out.. She'll be thinking this guy is safe and makes good emotional tampon, then all of a sudden BAM!!! Touch her tittie.. Tell her, do you like that? Then touch her leg.. Tell her, I will touch you like no one can.. I know you like that.. Kiss her man, fvck her, without protection.. You'd have a kid, and they will be raising it for you. It would be awesome.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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wow you guys are full of jokes today. maybe i'm asking the wrong people.
 

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tony-montana said:
wow you guys are full of jokes today. maybe i'm asking the wrong people.





YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEY TONY, ASK LUKE SKYWALKER.. YOU TWO CAN HOOK UP AND HAVE A THREE WAY EMOTIONAL TAMPON GET TOGETHER.
 

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oh i see what's going on. you saying she's just using me for when she's upset? i probably should of mentioned she's always like this happy or not. today was the first time she was upset since we've spoken. that part where i said "comfort" came out all wrong. i made a mistake saying she "always" messages me when she has a crappy day... it was only once she said that. "i need a hug." i asked what was wrong and she said she was having a crappy day.
 

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All the men on this site go on posting about how their g/f's have internet / txt b/f's and here you are the surrogate, NOT GETTING ANY ACTION. You might as well be her cuddle bunny.

I bet she won't meet you in person.
 

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tony-montana said:
wow you guys are full of jokes today. maybe i'm asking the wrong people.
Good luck finding the "right people" to ask such a stupid question.


I went to the store this one time and bought a Coke and some pepperoni pizza Combos. The cashier was hot and she looked me right in the eyes and said, "That will be $4.57 please." I gave her some money and her hand touched mine. It was electric. She said, all seductively, "Out of ten." Then she reached into her cash drawer and gave me a $5 bill and some change. She gave me my change and said, "Have a nice day, hon." HON! Can you believe it!? It was so magical.

Then I asked her if she wanted to go out with me, and she showed me her wedding ring and said, "Sorry. I'm married." Obviously she wanted me, since she's sorry that she's married! I'm just trying to figure out how to use this to my advantage!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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lol, nice story. ain't you ever heard of people being engaged and then leaving the guy because they realise they like someone else more? maybe she's unhappy with her boyfriend. what are you really trying to say mr casanova? just be honest and stop making jokes and stupid stories. tell me what is so stupid about what i said. be an adult and tell me. stop clowning around.
 

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I decided to go ahead and help you anyway you don't seem to be the brightest crayon in the box and I feel sorry for you.

So let's recap your post.

(1) You don't know this girl in real life. Only on the Internet.
(2) She's always looking for comfort and you always comfort her.
(3) She calls you "darling".
(4) She doesn't talk about her boyfriend very much.
(5) She says she's happily engaged.
(6) She says if she was in your city, she'd meet you for a hug.
(7) She's been with her fiance for 7 years.

So here's your problem. Are you ready?

YOU'RE GOTTDAMNED DELUSIONAL.

There is absolutely nothing that you've said that suggests that this girl sees you as anything other than an Internet "buddy". And not just an Internet buddy, but a Ken doll Internet buddy... a Eunuch. Here's one way you can tell: She said, "If I was in your city, I would meet you for a hug." She didn't say, "If I was in your city I would f&ck you until your brains came out your ears."
 

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she's not a slut that's why she didn't say that. but look... i was probably blind and i'm not playing her game no more. i just ignored her a few minutes ago cause she said "goodnight darling." - if she keeps it up i'm going to tell her to stop it. you're right. sorry for being a fukhead. many many times she turns our conversation sexual... telling me what she's wearing and posting emoticons of sexual things. but whatever... i aint fukin around with her anymore.
 

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What's going on with "us" is nothing bud. She's jerking your chain over the internet. It's a safe way for her to fill a void in her relationship.
You've never met.....don't live in the same town.....and she says that you were in the same town she'd give you a hug.......big woop....a hug.
If she said that she'd give you a round of beak that might be a reason for you to be curious about this chick but that would depend on how desperate you are to have someone honking on bobo.
For all you know she could be a fat guy named Mike.
Also.....her stating that she is "happily engaged" is hardly an indicator that she is going to leave him....move to your town and live happily ever after with you.
It might be a good idea to change your focus to a real live gal.....someone in your own town.
Best of luck.
 

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i know i know. but why does she go through the trouble of opening her msn, then messaging me saying goodnight? like she doesn't get enough attention from her boyfriend or something? or if i ignore her she keeps messaging me.

there's so much in my logs of our chats that would make you think twice about what is going on... here's one part;

[12:35:19 AM] her: well, I can continue being your "gf" if you like ;)
[12:35:44 AM] me: if only it wasnt "gf"
[12:35:46 AM] me: and just gf
[12:35:47 AM] me: haha
[12:36:08 AM] her: *removes the quotation marks*

i just read a bit of the log and i kind of feel like a dikhead for just pouring my heart out to her. usually if a girl tells me she likes me i just lose my game and fall for them straight out. also, she gets jealous when girls talk to me in the chat room (my ex gf and i talk to each other (real life gf that is) - after she left she messages me and is like: "girlfriend eh? you sneaky bastard." wtf??? why would she even give a sh!t if she's happily engaged!? she confuses me ;/

why does she keep hassling me if she's happy. why is she on the internet for so many hours... everyday! all night/day! why does she even say these things to me!? i would not do this if i was with a girl and happy. i'd be out with her. not online talking to some other younger girl. i've said it before and i'll say it again: women are trouble :p

why am i more happy being single than when i'm with a girl? seems all i ever find is trouble.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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no, i don't drink. i'm actually pretty happy in life and a joker. but soon as a girl enters my life i quickly fall into a deep pile of sh!t. i just can't help myself and i end up being all mushy and romantic. i've held all that sh!t inside me all my life cause i ain't found the girl to show it to yet. i'm looking for the real deal man and i know it's hard. but yeah... i just gotta hang in there.
 

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tony-montana said:
no, i don't drink. i'm actually pretty happy in life and a joker. but soon as a girl enters my life i quickly fall into a deep pile of sh!t. i just can't help myself and i end up being all mushy and romantic. i've held all that sh!t inside me all my life cause i ain't found the girl to show it to yet. i'm looking for the real deal man and i know it's hard. but yeah... i just gotta hang in there.

Because you're serious, mother fvcker!!!!!


What part of your brain is working now? Is it:


A) Emotional

B) Intellectual



You're trying to make sense of everything.. Intellectual.. That's called being serious.. You are serious.. Women find serious men seriously borring.. :D
 

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Like I said Tony.....she's jerking your chain.....by the sounds of it she's doing a good job too.Who cares why she is "jealous" or whatever.....she just wants your attention. Maybe her boyfriend is a guy who doesn't kiss her ass and she just needs to feel a little power.....she's doing a pretty good job with control over your emotions and she likes that. You need to get your nuts out of her Inbox and find a girl. (Not an internet gal.....because a lot of them ARE trouble).
 

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lol i appreciate the help man. but i ain't changing. i already learnt who i am over my teen years. i went to parties, got laid, drank alcohol, danced, went to nightclubs, bars, etc... that's not me man. although i got alot of girls, i just didn't like the kind of girls i was finding living this life... and most of all i didn't like who i was trying to be. i don't like parties and i don't like being wild... i like being at home, watch a movie or two, play some games on the ps3... go for a quick drive to the beach, have a little walk. if girls don't like that... well i'm gonna have to be single for a very long time i guess.

cretin, yep i totally agree. i'm going to tell her to stop it next time she starts that crap again. i'm going to tell her off.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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