"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She's boring

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Ok, listen up Eff, this what we like to call a lack of chemistry. It's not that she's inherently boring, but rather, she bores you specifically. And who knows, maybe you bore her.

If some girl comes up to me talking about aircraft, i may fall asleep in her lap, whereas this may be someone elses cup of tea. Don't be so arrogant as to think you are the holy grail of stimulating convo.

My advice? Next her. If you have no real similarities, go find some girl more your speed. I mean, that should be no prob for a convo guru such as yourself.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Rex Man said:
Ok, listen up Eff, this what we like to call a lack of chemistry. It's not that she's inherently boring, but rather, she bores. And who knows, maybe you bore her.

If some girl comes up to me talking about aircraft, i may fall asleep in her lap, whereas this may be someone elses cup of tea. Don't be so arrogant as to think you are the holy grail of stimulating convo.

My advice? Next her. If you have no real similarities, go find some girl more your speed. I mean, that should be no prob for a convo guru such as yourself.
True, but I also think that the DJ principles can put somewhat of a blinder on these types of interactions. Say you act the dj way, and she doesn't seem to take it very well. Do you equate that to her being boring, being shy, not interested? I think by reading and practicing the dj methods and in becoming more confident, we believe that we can have any girl, boring or not. But is that what you want? Is it worth it to even apply the dj principles to these seemingly boring, dull, closed girls?
 

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TheTraveller said:
...Is it worth it to even apply the dj principles to these seemingly boring, dull, closed girls?
That's exactly what I'm saying. It's as if they were kids in a candy store who spend all of their money buying M&Ms knowing that they don't like chocolate; they don't care as long as they have candy.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
If that's the case wouldn't it be easier to just pay for sex and just get it over with? It would be a real time saver.
It depends on the girl. The last one I dated was the perfect girl in every other way. We were having a good time, but it couldn't be a life long relationship.
 

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Lol, don't know if anyone else noticed, but most young girls (under 25) are boring.

If there was no chance of anything happening, I'd much rather hang out with a bunch of guys than a bunch of girls. Just shag her and move on mate. :D
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MR_PERFECT said:
It depends on the girl. The last one I dated was the perfect girl in every other way. We were having a good time, but it couldn't be a life long relationship.
Hold on. She's perfect yet she's not worth being with in a LTR? You make your idea of perfection sound like settling for whomever is interesting at that moment. :confused:
 

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Girls are never boring. You're boring.

You can generate excitement if you want to.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Hold on. She's perfect yet she's not worth being with in a LTR? You make your idea of perfection sound like settling for whomever is interesting at that moment. :confused:
It's called fun. What kind of guy is strictly dating girls that he thinks he'll eventually marry? I dated her because she was always up for a good time. If I wanted conversation, I called someone else.
 

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It's called fun. What kind of guy is strictly dating girls that he thinks he'll eventually marry? I dated her because she was always up for a good time. If I wanted conversation, I called someone else.
So you're saying that your definition of perfection doesn't mean that a woman possess all of the qualities or characteristics that you are attracted to, right?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So you're saying that your definition of perfection doesn't mean that a woman possess all of the qualities or characteristics that you are attracted to, right?
I said everything was perfect, except conversation, meaning anything physical or competitive, like basketball, pool, sex, bowling, cards, etc...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

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MR_PERFECT said:
I said everything was perfect, except conversation, meaning anything physical or competitive, like basketball, pool, sex, bowling, cards, etc...
I see, perfection with exceptions; gotcha! :up:
 

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she is boring that's what's bodering you,men get into her pants and if she's still boring let her go.i don't know what you think about getting into her pants.
do you want to marry her cause it's like you want her to be exciting which means you've been thinking of her and you don't want to lose her men you have to think a little bit of what you want with women,if you want to get married to her then get attached to her if not boil her as many times as you want and let her go.it's simple let her be bored as long as she wants.

everybody have thier ways of doing something but copy the good ones if you feel is better.
 

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Rex Man said:
If some girl comes up to me talking about aircraft, i may fall asleep in her lap, whereas this may be someone elses cup of tea. Don't be so arrogant as to think you are the holy grail of stimulating convo.
Ohh women in aviation are hooooooot... Lol Which goes to show it's all completely subjective
 
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