"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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she's 18 and in highschool.. me 23.

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hi folks,

had an account here with the same name but somehow lost the login. Anyway, ive learned a lot from the people here a few years back and ive really appreciate it. hey i was foolish to think id have "graduated" from this site, but now i need some tips again.

met this chick at the gym shes 18 and in highschool. im 23 with career and living at home for the moment. she seems mature enough for me to give it a try.

1. she took my phone without me knowing and punched in her #. Whats a cool opening i can use for this?

2. dating a chick so young is a little iffy, what do i do when i pick her up? meet and greet the dad? :trouble: any advise?

thanks in advance

V
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't think you need any "special" opening, she put HER # in YOUR phone. You could just say something like, "I had this new number in my phone I thought I better not let it go to waste" or something, but ultimately she is REALLY into you to do that so you dont need to do anything special. And I was 22 dating an 18 yr old and let me say they can be very flaky. Girls that age are really into getting off on their own egos and 1 way is to bang a college guy. If thats all you want go for it, but from my experience it wont work in the long run if thats what you're after.
 

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in 2008 most of these 18 years olds act like they are 25 and are accustomed to doing men 25 and older....

But remember that mentally and socially she is still immature so there will be many a limitation when it comes to a relationship based on more than just sex...

Also keep in mind that females that young are very unstable and "A.D.D.ed" out... So dont be surprised to find that she loves you today then hates you tomorrow then is sleeping with 40 other dudes also.
 
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Good luck. I'm 20 and I try to steer clear of girls that are 18. Too immature and annoying. Not only is she stuck in the "high school mentality", SHE'S IN HIGH SCHOOL. Find another woman.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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young_gun said:
Good luck. I'm 20 and I try to steer clear of girls that are 18. Too immature and annoying. Not only is she stuck in the "high school mentality", SHE'S IN HIGH SCHOOL. Find another woman.
lol . sorry , worst advice .

He's not gonna marry her . He should give it a try . Why not .

They are very attractive cuz they think they are grown and want to explore themselves and try different things with older guys ( they think they are more experienced ) :D.

About opening , just open her , make a small convo and invite her in the club ur going to be .. For more info about this go to my thread about first date with chick you dont know very well.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=138438
 

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Have fun with it. Remember Jerry Seinfeld went out with a high schooler and he was more than 20 years old her senior. She had a great rack.
 

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She can be fun, but at that age she'll have the attention span of a house fly. If she falls "in love" with you, don't believe it.
 

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Interesting...

I'm 26, and while I'm not really into the 18-19 year old girls, sometimes there will be one here and there that are interested (or become obsessed).

I dont look 26 at all. I look very young, 20 at the oldest. Some people think I'm still in high school. As soon as they find out my age its insta-flake. Never to hear from them again regardless of how they felt beforehand.

I'm certainly not seeing the 18 year olds into older men where I live.:confused:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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j81 said:
Interesting...

I'm 26, and while I'm not really into the 18-19 year old girls, sometimes there will be one here and there that are interested (or become obsessed).

I dont look 26 at all. I look very young, 20 at the oldest. Some people think I'm still in high school. As soon as they find out my age its insta-flake. Never to hear from them again regardless of how they felt beforehand.

I'm certainly not seeing the 18 year olds into older men where I live.:confused:
HMMM I NOTICED THAT AROUND THEIR FRIENDS THEY WILL GO FOR THE TEEN BOYS BUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THEY BE DOING MANY AN OLD TIMER..LOL
 

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Only in America would guys have such a conversation. Guess what? Mrs. World is younger than Miss America! She was married at 17 to a guy who was over 50. The issue isn't the age, it is that females in America are immature until the day they die (and they seen to refuse to die). The 18 year olds I know are all more mature than I am. Hell, I think the 12 year olds around here are more mature than I am. Even some of the little boys make me feel like I need to get my s--- together.

The self-doubt that American guys have is just amazing. Did you know that the greater the difference in age of married couples in the USA the greater the chance that the marriage will work? That is a statistical fact.

http://pageantcastnews.blogspot.com/2006/05/russias-beauty-crowned-mrs-world-2006.html

http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists...ListType=Person&uniqueId=5UCS&datatype=Person
The husband. I really doubt that as a 50 year old man he was concerned that his new wife had just turned 17. Just like I doubt if he is concerned that he can't please her or that she will find some little boy to take his place.
 

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meitenesrigas said:
Only in America would guys have such a conversation. Guess what? Mrs. World is younger than Miss America! She was married at 17 to a guy who was over 50. The issue isn't the age, it is that females in America are immature until the day they die (and they seen to refuse to die). The 18 year olds I know are all more mature than I am. Hell, I think the 12 year olds around here are more mature than I am. Even some of the little boys make me feel like I need to get my s--- together.

The self-doubt that American guys have is just amazing. Did you know that the greater the difference in age of married couples in the USA the greater the chance that the marriage will work? That is a statistical fact.

http://pageantcastnews.blogspot.com/2006/05/russias-beauty-crowned-mrs-world-2006.html

http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists...ListType=Person&uniqueId=5UCS&datatype=Person
The husband. I really doubt that as a 50 year old man he was concerned that his new wife had just turned 17. Just like I doubt if he is concerned that he can't please her or that she will find some little boy to take his place.
I totally agree.

I think the foreign girls I've met are some of the greatest women I've ever known.

There this really REALLY hot 17 year old russian girl at work...if only there werent statutory rape laws.
 

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meitenesrigas said:
Only in America would guys have such a conversation. Guess what? Mrs. World is younger than Miss America! She was married at 17 to a guy who was over 50. The issue isn't the age, it is that females in America are immature until the day they die (and they seen to refuse to die). The 18 year olds I know are all more mature than I am. Hell, I think the 12 year olds around here are more mature than I am. Even some of the little boys make me feel like I need to get my s--- together.

The self-doubt that American guys have is just amazing. Did you know that the greater the difference in age of married couples in the USA the greater the chance that the marriage will work? That is a statistical fact.

http://pageantcastnews.blogspot.com/2006/05/russias-beauty-crowned-mrs-world-2006.html

http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists...ListType=Person&uniqueId=5UCS&datatype=Person
The husband. I really doubt that as a 50 year old man he was concerned that his new wife had just turned 17. Just like I doubt if he is concerned that he can't please her or that she will find some little boy to take his place.
Yeh well since american culture i now controlled by bitter 40 something year old hags (feminists), older men with younger girls will remain taboo...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bible_Belt said:
She can be fun, but at that age she'll have the attention span of a house fly. If she falls "in love" with you, don't believe it.
and it is all totally legal!!
 

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cool guys thanks for all the advice, there are some really good points brought up here

kind reminds me of the time when i got a girls # and then found out after i called her shes 16...
and then i found out legal age in that state was 16... oh well ^_^
 

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DonGorgon said:
HMMM I NOTICED THAT AROUND THEIR FRIENDS THEY WILL GO FOR THE TEEN BOYS BUT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THEY BE DOING MANY AN OLD TIMER..LOL
:crackup:

I couldn't agree more. Not that I am doing one, but this girl flirts with me, little by little, But just as of today, I kind of could tell what was going on. Behind closed doors... (or should I say a text message) you are right. Obviously that way, I am the only one to see her text, and she is the one sending. No one else.

And too, I think what gets her, is that I dont LOOK old (though she just called me grandpa) but I am older. So you could be sneaky as hell.

The only people who would know, would be people we work with. We could go anywhere else, and she could lie out her ass and tell people I went to X high school, and they wouldn't think twice cause of my looks. I'd have to lie about age and school, but no biggy. And all the while she is saying... I LOVE the fact I can get away with dating an OLDER guy with not many people knowing. :up:

But I will have to agree that it all happens behind closed doors. What her friends dont know wont hurt her. lol
 

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the fact of the matter is girls nowadays feel a boost of ego that they can brag
to their girlfriends," i got a college guy," they are just like us. We get juiced when we are currently dating a older woman.

this relationship will begin suddenly and end suddenly, honestly see this as a hit and quit and no need to introduce yourself to the family( its a sign of commitment which will only slow or stifle the relationship). no special opening just act like, "i found this number in my phone thought i check it out".

good luck my friend.
 

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I'd say give it a shot, ya never know. Statistically the age gap usually presents issues, but that in it of itself is no problem.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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