She Was A He

[JGault]

OK guys I have been lurking on this site for a couple of months now and really like & use the advice given here.

Here is my situation:

Been flirting heavily with a major babe (HB9.5) at my gym for 4 months while my current LTR has been disintegrating. The HB9.5 and I have intense chemisrty and attraction. Now that my LTR is over it is time to act however........

I've been told on fairly good authority that she had a sex change operation. Very hard to believe except:
1 - slightly larger hands and feet than would probaly be normal for a girl her size (5'2", 120#).
2 - not exactly a feminine gait (walk)
3 - in her ealy thirtys and never been married or even engaged and again she is a MAJOR hottie.
4 - although very smart and personable does not appear to have any close friends.

So what to do?

I am very open minded as she is all girl to me. So the chance of me not asking her out is none unless any of you can give me a logical objection.

My real question is that I want to approach her about it just she knows that it doesnt change how I think and feel about her. Whereby I win her trust which is apparently hard to come by. Any solid advice here would be geatly appreciated.

 

[Silquee Smoove]

I thought this was an article about transsexuals or at least drag queens and how to avoid/spot them.

By the way, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Also, if you've read the DJ Bible then you know the male/female percentage rate already.

Just question her/him until you get more of a grip.

Good luck.

 

[Eyecandie4ya]

LOLOLOL!


This is funny and scary at the same time, but you still want shim even if she use to be a he?

From now on, all the women I date will have to show me butt-naked baby pictures for validation.


This is scary world we live in.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

LOL

This is way too funny.

Are you sure she was a he? It could be a rumour. It could be true.

If it's true and then you still want to be with ...err......"Him"...than that's just fvcked up.

Man, I'd run the other way in a second.

But hey, to each HIS own.

The Bad Ass Canadian

 

[Knicknack]

i thought this was a joke. i want to see this converted man who is now an "HB9.5." give me a break. no man can switch teams and even get a 2 ranking, much less a 9.5... send us a pic.

 

[MetalFortress]

Wouldn't her voice also be a giveaway?

 

[JGault]

Swear to God boys.

Totally............... fem! Voice, body, face, hair, laugh. Everthing except what I have already noted above.

No s**t. A raving beauty, You would never guess but I got to know yes or no. Ya know?

 

[Good_ol_boy]

"i thought this was a joke. i want to see this converted man who is now an "HB9.5." give me a break. no man can switch teams and even get a 2 ranking, much less a 9.5... send us a pic."

Twila (I think that is the spelling)!! Victoria's Secret model, (naked) Playboy spreads, Bond Girl!!!

 

[JGault]

Exactly Good.

On one hand you say it's not possible than on the other you give the Bond girl as an example of it being possible.

Hey look here. I'm not sure myself and believe me when I was first approached about the possiblity I laughed out loud. But the four items above have given me some reason for pause.

How do you approach her to find out? Thats what I need to know. I realize its hard to apprecaite her beauty when it's just words typed on a forum. I'm hip to that but I guess you gotta trust that I'm not just busting your balls. Or that I'm just a nut job.

 

[princelydeeds]

Call me closed minded but anyone who has ever had a penis is and always will be a man to me!!!! All I can say is disgusting!!!!!

Are you sure you're not gay? Not thats theres anything wrong with it!!!

 

[Player_Supreme]

1. You must have sexual issues if your still willing to go through with it, meaning you must be bi or some other type of gay dude.

2. My ex girlfriend a M.A.C cosemetic make-up artist used to teach them how to do make up and **** like that. Through her I came into contact with alot of them. They are still men! No matter how many voice operations they have (look at it's throat), or voice tapes they listen too. No matter how many walk classes and sitting lessons they take they are still men....sorry. In my personal training business I've even trained a few of my ex-'s clients.....when they sweat it's man sweat mixed with hormones...smells nasty as f*uck.

3. This one may have implants or as I've seen huge natural boobs if they get on hormones young enough and do this one procedure, but underneath they are still male.

4. A woman is all woman. Her smell is woman. Her feel is woman. Her walk is natural woman. Her insides are woman. She can bear children as a woman. There is no substitutes..just cause you may wanna try some back door shyt do it with a real woman not a fake copy of one.

5. Recently I saw a program on cable about these things and how they have a certain part of their brain that isn't as a man's should be, but is developed to the length of a womans, which causes them to have emotional developement similiar to womens. But all the rest is pure man bruh...make no mistake.

6. These people fall under the "gay" catagory. Are you willing to stick your di^ck in a hornets nest (aids). These dudes being super gay to the point of wanting nothing but dyck as a woman can be high risk for aids. Are you willing to die the horrible death that an aids carrier dies!

7. Just cause you and your ex are done, doesnt mean you should switch teams. A lot of females do that these days and I've heard of a few men who have done this thing. Don't do it! don't give up on REAL women yet. It's not going to be better with one of them. If you think women are insecure (as my ex explained it too me)...think about how insecure these guys must be...think about how hard they try to look like women and the emotional stress that creates.

8. All your thinking is ok this thing will give me all the sex I want and all the freaky **** I can handle...but it's not worth one minute of it. Most of them are on anti depressants...aids meds' meds of some type...and you think women are crazy...whats wrong inside their heads will make you shudder.

9. Like I said you must have a gay side to even think of this thing. To post some shyt like this on this site is an insult to all the guys who come here to learn how to handle REAL women. I wish the moderators would of pulled this post before all these studying players had a chance to read this bullshyt. You make me wanna puke playboy. Sorry I get wrapped up over gay shyt. I feel sorry for transsexual. I would hate to have something like that happen to me or someone in my family. But I don't feel anything for a supposedly straight man who courts disaster.

10. I've seen real transexual (thanks to my ex) and yes there are ones who could really almost pass as females...the one your looking at may not be one though...if they lift weights testostorone becomes active inside them...causing them to become masculine....unless they are taking blockers and inhibitors...or have had their nutz cut off.

12. Just cause she has big hands and feet doesn't mean she is a male. I've trained women with this. One even had the strongest hands I've ever felt on a woman and most men, but she was a real genetic woman. I would be very careful with this one and approaching the subject. Nobody is worth dying over.

In conclusion:

Just Don't Do It!

 

[JGault]

Hey player thanks for the thoughtful post.

I'm as gay as u are.

Married twice and lived with two other "REAL" women. Heck and I still don't want to switch teams.

He!! dude I'm not looking for a lecture on the pros and cons of homosexuality.

HOW DO YOU APPROACH HER TO FIND OUT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is the question that difficult to understand. I don't know how to break it down any futher for you. Sorry brother.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by JGault
Hey player thanks for the thoughtful post.

I'm as gay as u are.

Married twice and lived with two other "REAL" women. Heck and I still don't want to switch teams.

He!! dude I'm not looking for a lecture on the pros and cons of homosexuality.

HOW DO YOU APPROACH HER TO FIND OUT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is the question that difficult to understand. I don't know how to break it down any futher for you. Sorry brother.

1. because you've been married and have lived with women doesn't make you straight. In Sacramento there was a famous Weather Reporter Named Stormin Normin. He was married with kids until he was caught on a sting operation at Macy's bathroom stalls with another man.

2. Your post indicated that you didn't care cause she was all woman to you...my attempt is to let you know the truth..if she is then she isn't all woman.

3. Just cause she has large hands and I edited into my post doesn't make her a male.

4. If in doubt let it go! It's not worth it. so in answer to your question...HOW DO YOU APPROACH HER TO FIND OUT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't.

5. Go with your gut instinct. You know what she is. You knew when you posted your post. Your whole posts was a questioning of yourself. Your seeking validation and justification. In the end your going to do what you are craving to do no matter what anyone on this board says so be in peace dude.

 

[JGault]

Dam player you outed me. Yea me an old stormin norman! You got me pegged. Great work.

You give good advice except on the question I asked. I'm definitly asking. I've read enough of your self-congratulating posts to know that a HB9.5 would be a downgrade for you. But for the rest of us poor mortals they don't come around everyday.

Yea buddy I might be be gay but I do have balls and I AM ASKING.

Get back to you on the reply. Because if she is a true she from birth I'm hitting it hard. If not I guess you'll never know what I do because at this point I really don't either.

 

[prosemont]

Because they've made this so difficult to tell nowadays with all the hormones and operations to change even the most subtle things, the SINGLE best way to tell is by going with your gut feeling. If there is ANY doubt in your gut whatsoever that she is not 100% woman, you can rest assured she isn't.

And, by your mere posting here about this, there is a doubt.
Even if you don't know and think she *might* be, why even bother? If there is ANY doubt in your mind at all, then don't do it.

With a real woman, you know she's a real woman and there is not a shred of doubt about it.

Let me tell you a story from many years ago. I was in Berlin, Germany with a couple of buddies. We decide to go to a strip club. There are some fine "women" in there stripping. It's full nudity and they have fake breasts (big surprise) and vaginas and their faces are attractive like model looking attractive. Bodies are perfect.

But, there was something that just wasn't quite right. For the life of us, we couldn't figure it out, but after a little bit, we *knew* something wasn't right. Then we get to talking to one of them and we ask what it is exactly, what's so different about these women ... and s/he told us:

They were all post-op transexuals. Grossed us out, bigtime.

Because you continue to ask how, however, let me *try* to address this. It used to be *sort of* easy to tell because of things like hands and the adams apple, not anymore.

1. Is s/he Asian in any respect? (Sorry to all my Asian brothers out there, but there is a large population of Asian transvestites, transexuals, etc.) Or ... from some other country?

2. Fake breasts?

3. Muscular legs as in lack of fat on legs? Most women have at least a little fat (good fat!) on their legs. It's called being sexy. These she-men tend to have less fat than women.

4. Larger than normal hands?

5. Dress stylishly?

6. Work in some type of transient job such as hairdresser, cosmetics, or waitress? Ie. a job where s/he can move from job to job without a problem? (No offense to people who work in these jobs.)

7. Some weird-ass or exotic name?

I repeat, none of these 7 things is definitive. Trust your gut. And, your gut has already spoken.

Post back, though, I'd like to hear how he fares on these issues.

 

[JGault]

Thanks prosemont. Now this IS helpful. First off I'm about 90% sure she is true woman. There is quite a bit of jealousy amoung the other women at the gym about her. So even that it was from an a pretty relaible source. It still was another women. Before I heard this there was absolutely NO reason to suspect anything.

To answer your above questions: 1 no, 2 yes (very large 40DD I'd say), 3 very little fat (she is a cardio fiend 1 hour EVERY day) perfect legs, small but shapely rearend. 4 yes slightly 5 no 6 no 7 no.

The other thing is that she told me she was teased badly in school up to HS level. Thick glasses, geeky,etc.... Hard to believe because she is so beautful now. Another reason I have some doudt. Thanks for the reply.

 

[G_S]

This post = total BS

 

[prosemont]

I'm not busting on you here, but I can't understand how you can even be attracted to someone who has a 10% chance of being a man. I mean, even if she is 100% woman, if I even thought a woman was somehow 10% man-like, I wouldn't be attracted to her. To each his own I guess.

Again, your gut has spoken. But, if you are still into all this, just do what a private investigator buddy of mine would do when he is checking on anybody for anything. Ask this guy his name and age and where he went to high school. Call the high school under the ruse of an employment check and verify name and attendance. If anything doesn't check out, don't proceed.

I personally think that even this is way too much effort though.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by JGault
Dam player you outed me. Yea me an old stormin norman! You got me pegged. Great work.

You give good advice except on the question I asked. I'm definitly asking. I've read enough of your self-congratulating posts to know that a HB9.5 would be a downgrade for you. But for the rest of us poor mortals they don't come around everyday.

Yea buddy I might be be gay but I do have balls and I AM ASKING.

Get back to you on the reply. Because if she is a true she from birth I'm hitting it hard. If not I guess you'll never know what I do because at this point I really don't either.

1. hahahaha...self congradulating posts...that's funny right thurr. Remember I post my examples to learn from not pat myself on the back. I get enough of that shyt in real life. My friends think I got some special powers or some bull shyt with women and they don't see the hours of practice I put in....kinda like that basketball player with aids now who get's angry with folks who think his skilll is magical...and he tells them they didn't see the 10,000 hours it took to make those shots...

1a) and no a Hb9.5 isn't a downgrade to anybody. If it's a dude I wonder at what cosmetic changes it had to get to look like that...plus what is one man's meat is anothers poisen...she might be hb9.5 to you but a skinny flat assed mangy dawg to me.

2. Like I said I wasn't attempting to flame you but to advise you. You know I read right through your post. If you study people then they become as plain as day.


3. I did answer your question. I said if your in doubt don't even approach the subject or the girl. Now how hard is that to understand. Remember I said trust your gut instinct. Plus you said you had it on good authority that this person was.

If she isn't I do hope you hit it hard...shoot that is what this site is suppose to be all about.

4. There is no easy way to approach this subject with someone. If she isn't then she will never talk to you again. If she is then we already know what your going to do...hit it hard anyway.

5. These "things" do not make perfect sex slaves bruh. As you stated you got it on good authority. As I've said you already know...your looking for validation....and not finding any...but your gonna do it anyways.

6. Peace bruh. I do wish you good health. My complaint is that when you tire of this you will go back to real women....and if you weren't careful...and you pick up aids unknowingly or if that thing has it...then you make the rest of us straights game much harder. "Don't bring a Shytty dyck back to the land of P*ussy" -eddie griffin.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Now lastly look over these rules and think about how many you are breaking...no matter what that person really is.

Your getting all worked up over some "one". Your excited (emotional)... worried...no matter what sex it is your going to blow your game...

The Rules To Become A Player!

A Player...


* keeps his emotions to himself.
* is his own best company.
* doesn't get paid for screwing. He gets his pay from always having
the right thing to say to his females.
* with sense never lets a female go who still has some trick in her.
* is really a b*tch who has reversed the game.
* should be prince charming to the females. They should think you're
GOD!!!
* should always have one thought in his head, Play Or Die!!!
* should control the whole female, be the boss of her life, even her
thoughts.
* should always be determined in any and everything.
* should always recognize and respect other Players.
* should never accept anything but his money.
* must be serious!!!
* has to be married, married to the game!!!
* could cut his d*ck off and still Play his ass off!!!
* is the lonliest person in the world.
* wants any female who can make him money.
* cannot feel like a Player with one female, raise a stable.
* loves it when his women love him.
* has to use great pressure.

Women...

* A Player with a fine female has to keep his game tight.
* Females always try to find a weakness in a Player.

* A pretty black female and a white female are alike. They will try
destroy your stable and leave you broke.
* The way you start with a female is the way you end with her. Play the Game
hard from the start.
* If you chase a female you get a weak one, if you stalk her you get
a strong one.
* Don't give a trife broke female a second chance.

* Always keep your women on mental file.
* There is nothing more important than what makes a new female tick
and why. Make her tell you her life story.
* The tougher you are, the more she will love you.
* Make her convince you, that she should be your girl.
* It's better to have no female than half of a female.
* If your women act up, put them in check quick.
* Never put two new females together, they will plot on you.
* It thrills women when their Man makes a mistake. Don't make any.
* Never let your women break your rules.
* Never let your women get loud with you.
* Never neglect your women.
* If your women gets stolen the reason why is because your game was
not tight enough.
* A female in strange surroundings is more dependent on her Man.
.
* Women think twice about leaving a rich Player, so work on your front and clout.
* For every girl that leaves you, get two.
* A Player should always tell his women something new everyday to hold
them.
* Run your women like a business.
* Keep your women well maintained.

Remember...


* there isn't a female you can't do without.
* just like drugs, don't get high off your own supply and what your
supply is, is women.
* the world is nothing but a b*tch, and you are her pimp!!!!
* earn your Player degree in Playerology.
* you are not a gentleman, you are a Player!!!
* you only get great by Playing by the rules.
* you don't have to Play, you got to Play the game.
* it's a violation of the Players laws to quit a female who is bringing
you love and attention.
* the Players game is not for kids.
* never confide in your women, keep your thoughts a secret.
* Playing isn't a sex game, it's a mind game.
* just like a company, downsize and upgrade if you have to.
* true friends mean more than any female.
* in a Player's life, yesterday means nothing, today is everything!!!
* the game of being a Player is like a chess game, you must think before you move.


Always...


* find ways to keep your women without kissing their ass.
* seek knowledge about the game.
* be positive in everything you do, especially in this game.
* take care of the little things and if the female is qualified make
her take care of the big things.
* keep your mind on your money and your own life!!!
* live by the rules you set down on your women.
* keep the Player / female relationship well defined.
* be a puzzle to your women, that's a way how to keep them.
* remember what you are, a Player!!!
* remember, the only heaven for a Big Daddy Player is one filled with women and money.
* remember a Player's wardrobe has to be neat and clean, his ride must
be eye catching.
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this doesn't matter if your looking for your long lost soul mate or into this thing to be a player as this site is suppose to be about.

You lose your game and you lose "the" game.