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I am reading all this congratulatory posts to Des. He is a late 30s dude and the girl is an inexperienced 21 year old. Its akin to a 8 year old trying to threaten a 21 year old and the older kid puts the younger one in place. Its expected and nothing to wail over. Open your eyes fellas.
 

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mangotot said:
I am reading all this congratulatory posts to Des. He is a late 30s dude and the girl is an inexperienced 21 year old. Its akin to a 8 year old trying to threaten a 21 year old and the older kid puts the younger one in place. Its expected and nothing to wail over. Open your eyes fellas.
I disagree mangotot. Sure older women may be a little better at hiding their true agenda, and women have different needs at different stages in their life, but all women generally exhibit the same behavior. I think Des' most recent story is another perfect example about how to deal with a woman. Never underestimate a woman, whatever her age may be.
 

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You are laughing coz you just NUKED the biitch and she ran out like the biitch she is. BRAVO!
 

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Mangotot,
This thread is the reason I read Sosuave. So very many men have forgotten to be treated the way THEY want to be treated. It's refreshing to see it.

Long time ago I went to a social function with a woman that I was marginally interested in. She had made her self up very nicely for the fundraiser but committed what I thought was a big blunder. When I showed up to pick her up she was already 1-2 glasses of wine in, and it just got worse thru the evening. The fundraiser was pretty short of an event and so afterwards, she invited me up to her place. I thought maybe with a couple glasses of water she'd be sobering up. Nope, soon as we walked in she had another glass of wine. We put a movie in, and she was in and out smashed, I picked up my jacket and bid her a goodnight. She was stunned. I didn't want the sex that came with a trip to her place. As I was walking down the street she flung open her window and yelled "jerk". Mind you this was on a downtown street at around 12 on a weekend. Plenty of people heard that and looked to see what was going on. I kept walking to my truck and ignored her. Of course at that very instant I knew I was done with her. She blew up my phone for days after that apologizing. I never went back to that one.
That was one instance in my life where the better part of man judgement kicked in. Same as Des, he knew what he needed to do and executed.

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This post should be a sticky...how to avoid false charges

Knight's Cross said:
Mangotot,
This thread is the reason I read Sosuave. So very many men have forgotten to be treated the way THEY want to be treated. It's refreshing to see it.

Long time ago I went to a social function with a woman that I was marginally interested in. She had made her self up very nicely for the fundraiser but committed what I thought was a big blunder. When I showed up to pick her up she was already 1-2 glasses of wine in, and it just got worse thru the evening. The fundraiser was pretty short of an event and so afterwards, she invited me up to her place. I thought maybe with a couple glasses of water she'd be sobering up. Nope, soon as we walked in she had another glass of wine. We put a movie in, and she was in and out smashed, I picked up my jacket and bid her a goodnight. She was stunned. I didn't want the sex that came with a trip to her place. As I was walking down the street she flung open her window and yelled "jerk". Mind you this was on a downtown street at around 12 on a weekend. Plenty of people heard that and looked to see what was going on. I kept walking to my truck and ignored her. Of course at that very instant I knew I was done with her. She blew up my phone for days after that apologizing. I never went back to that one.
That was one instance in my life where the better part of man judgement kicked in. Same as Des, he knew what he needed to do and executed.

KC
Excelente! Women are irresponsible and the rationalizing hamster goes on over drive, when a woman gives up sex for no money, job, or material benefit in return. It's called sexual "buyer's remorse" and that's when the false charges of rape occur:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZNDVmFPRmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUSMi7EyMQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCUSmJurqrU

Get her sober consent or walk away. Priceless.
 

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Bravo Des. This is exactly what I mean when I say men need to internalize Red Pill awareness. It becomes who you are and your reflexive reactions become reflections of abundance and self-priority.

You just had a minor break up with her and nothing DHV than (in your case effectively) dumping her.

She'll call you by the weekend.
 

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Self-Discipline is the Key

To me, after 43 years and finally figuring how to hold my frame in a relationship in the past few years after getting out of my AFC-ness most of my life, here's what I have summed up as one of the most important things (and related to this thread) that you NEED TO DISCPLINE YOURSELF with. If not, I guarantee you will be manipulated and used by a woman like a helpless puppy that she owns as well as the puppy's balls:

** NEVER MAKE SEX A REQUIREMENT OR NEED FOR YOU IN THE RELATIONSHIP **

Once you have mastered this self-discipline of your own neediness to look for SEX, you have literally taken 100% of the woman's power away. In my experience, they will act as they have no clue what is going on as they are not used to this response - but secretly they will look up to you as an Alpha and a man for having self-discipline and being DIFFERENT than all the other arseholes out there as they would like to perceive most men are pigs. This is a double positive - so work on removing the appearance of NEEDING sex (this including begging, having the woman known you need her on a regular basis).

So next time she argues with you and throws a b!tch tantrum, walk away and ignore her for as long as necessary until she comes around - if not, walk away for good as you know your own worth and have no time for energy vampire dramas in life.

You will learn that a lot more power comes to you when a woman attempts to manipulates you, and you ignore her and enjoy your own life knowing you don't need her golden plated vajiana at all. This will strike at the deepest part of a woman's insecurity and she will find you irresistible as a masculine man and not a beta needing a woman for sex.

Be well.

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** NEVER MAKE SEX A REQUIREMENT OR NEED FOR YOU IN THE RELATIONSHIP **

Once you have mastered this self-discipline of your own neediness to look for SEX, you have literally taken 100% of the woman's power away.
This is 100% true, and I embraced this mindset years ago. There are better things in life than sex. Sex is also replaceable, either by another woman, or masturbation. Blowing your load inside a woman isn't the holy grail of life. Being content and happy with your own life is the holy grail, and you cannot get that if you allow yourself to be controlled by a woman.
 

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Great stuff. Sex is one of the huge reasons that men lost the control they once had. Once upon a time men truly dominated everything and had all power and control; women, the household, business, government, the food supply, etc, etc, everything. Women started to observe just how much men wanted and unfortunately needed sex. So they started to talk with their vertical lips and persuade men to give up said power and control in exchange for poon. Men said "Hey suuure, I don't mind giving up a little of my power and control if I can dip my pee pee into her!" So it progressed, spiraled, and escalated.. The trend multiplied like roaches...... At some point in time it happened so much that it started to have negative impact on pretty much everything and shift the balance of the world..... Now, today in 2015, it's plain flat out of control, not hypothetically, but really out of control for real.. Fast forward to today.. In GENERAL, do women do their equal share around the house anymore? Do women run companies as good as men? Do women build infrastructure as good as men? Do women and men get equal treatment in court? Where will we be if Hillary or some other femc\_/nt becomes President? No..No..No..No.. screwed to the max.... Most men either are clueless about what has really happened... Or they know about it but want/need poon too much to change their ways... The only turning back now is for men to come together as a collective and put a stop to it.. Basically, boycott having sex with women until women do things on their terms again and submit and go back to old ways.. HAHAHAHA!! That's not gonna happen.. No way! It's too far gone.... What's more likelly to happen is for massive destruction of civilized society leaving no infrastructure, no government, no nothing.. And only a very minimal number of women and men left on the planet.. Back to ground zero, living off the land, drinking from streams and killing or picking what you eat. Then, only then, will women have to submit again because they wont be able to survive alone under those circumstances without help from men...
 

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GotED? said:
To me, after 43 years and finally figuring how to hold my frame in a relationship in the past few years after getting out of my AFC-ness most of my life, here's what I have summed up as one of the most important things (and related to this thread) that you NEED TO DISCPLINE YOURSELF with. If not, I guarantee you will be manipulated and used by a woman like a helpless puppy that she owns as well as the puppy's balls:

** NEVER MAKE SEX A REQUIREMENT OR NEED FOR YOU IN THE RELATIONSHIP **

Once you have mastered this self-discipline of your own neediness to look for SEX, you have literally taken 100% of the woman's power away. In my experience, they will act as they have no clue what is going on as they are not used to this response - but secretly they will look up to you as an Alpha and a man for having self-discipline and being DIFFERENT than all the other arseholes out there as they would like to perceive most men are pigs. This is a double positive - so work on removing the appearance of NEEDING sex (this including begging, having the woman known you need her on a regular basis).

So next time she argues with you and throws a b!tch tantrum, walk away and ignore her for as long as necessary until she comes around - if not, walk away for good as you know your own worth and have no time for energy vampire dramas in life.

You will learn that a lot more power comes to you when a woman attempts to manipulates you, and you ignore her and enjoy your own life knowing you don't need her golden plated vajiana at all. This will strike at the deepest part of a woman's insecurity and she will find you irresistible as a masculine man and not a beta needing a woman for sex.

Be well.

Exodus
I'm going to second this as well.

The reason it's so powerful is because most men don't have the discipline to carry it out.

The other day a guy was telling me about how his wife gave him sex on his birthday or something (she's fat too...). While I wouldn't turn it away I'll never give the impression that sex from them is a reward. It'll only reinforce the behavior.

I advised a brother-in-law on how to deal with my sister's irrational behavior. Basically told him not to allow her to get to him emotionally (engaging in heated, pointless arguments) and simply remove himself until she calms down. Also to stick to his guns when he knows he's being reasonable (just don't argue).

Complete 180 from my sister. A laughed my a-- off because of how easy it was. He now listens to me more often.

Wake up men!
 

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Desdinova said:
I really haven't given a fvck about relationships over the past while. I haven't even given a fvck about having a highly physically attractive woman around. I've pretty much been sticking to Tenacity's ideal that women are only good for companionship and sex. That being said...
Holding on to someone else's subjective idea based on generalities. I can see how that could be useful with extremely shallow women, but this....I think you could have handled this more maturely.

Last week I fvcked the 21 year old orbiter again. Later that week, she came over to hang out. We just sat around watching something on TV. Around 12:30 at night, I was ready to head to sleep and she tried to "talk" to me about the last time we fvcked. I didn't give in because when I'm tired, my brain isn't going to conjure up anything smart.

So she came over yesterday to try and "talk" again. She's tickling me while trying to bring up the subject. I fvcking hate when women tickle me. Anyway, she finally stopped and decided to talk about the other night again. She said, "I don't wanna just be your booty call"
So you guys are sitting around hanging out NOT f*cking when she tried to talk. That doesn't sound like a f*ck buddy. 21 years old. Mature enough to address you about how she's feeling and being completely straight up with you. Where's the "game playing" aside from her tickling you to loosen you up for what she's about to say next?


My response? "Okay, we won't do that stuff anymore"
She was dumbfounded. She sat there, completely silent while I sat there and enjoyed sipping on my glass of water.
She tried to talk to you and you put up a silent, smug wall. Something a smooth sociopath would do. Des, this is childish.

After about 5 minutes of her saying absolutely nothing, she said "I need to get going". She grabbed her 5hit and walked out the door. Immediately after she closed the door, I just busted out laughing. I have no fvcking clue why, but the whole thing was just funny to me.
You don't know why it was funny? I'll tell you; your ego made it funny and how powerful you felt to close another stupid bit<h off. A "b!tch" who, btw who was trying to be open to you. But they're all "b!tches" right?

"but my f**k buddy 20 years ago said bla bla bla pregnancy test"

So are women to be not taken seriously, but only in matters where it seems to serve your own conclusions? You didn't see this chick's face as she took the pregnancy test. You don't even really know if she took a pregnancy test. You're getting second hand info from another "b!tch".

Your problem is you can't make up your mind about how you see women. You separate them into two extreme categories of "useful" or "useless" . Do you believe their word to be the truth when they say something bad about another chick you (and you DID) manufactured drama with? Or are they to be ignored when they're trying to disclose important sh!t to you?

You seriously have to make up your mind on what you truly want from women, my friend. Either you'll stop playing games (which btw from experience filters out women you don't want in your life DRAMATICALLY) or you'll continue to blame and speculate on the horrors of women based on YOUR own actions. When you change your mindset, the women you are with will change as well. You have to take some responsibility from this, Des.


Edit: Based on your response, we might become STR8UP vs JoPhil all over again. lol
 

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You seriously have to make up your mind on what you truly want from women, my friend. Either you'll stop playing games (which btw from experience filters out women you don't want in your life DRAMATICALLY) or you'll continue to blame and speculate on the horrors of women based on YOUR own actions. When you change your mindset, the women you are with will change as well. You have to take some responsibility from this, Des.
Ummm..... What was the point of all this?
 

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OP handled it like a champ. His frame was strong AF. The fact that his ambiguous response actually made the chick went "Blue Screen of Death" for 5min made it even funnier.
 

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I am reading all this congratulatory posts to Des. He is a late 30s dude and the girl is an inexperienced 21 year old. Its akin to a 8 year old trying to threaten a 21 year old and the older kid puts the younger one in place. Its expected and nothing to wail over. Open your eyes fellas.
Hahaha best fvcking joke I've heard this year:

"UNEXPERIENCED 21 year old"???

Please,you can't possibly imagine the amount of d!cks that 21 year olds have. Most of the time, it's the 30 year old dudes that are fvking clueless - not vice versa.
 

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Hahaha best fvcking joke I've heard this year:

"UNEXPERIENCED 21 year old"???

Please,you can't possibly imagine the amount of d!cks that 21 year olds have. Most of the time, it's the 30 year old dudes that are fvking clueless - not vice versa.
There's always a naysayer in every thread. Some jerk always has to thump his chest and talk down to/about the OP.

@Desdinova handled this like a pro.... no matter how old the chick was.
 

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Great stuff. Sex is one of the huge reasons that men lost the control they once had. Once upon a time men truly dominated everything and had all power and control; women, the household, business, government, the food supply, etc, etc, everything. Women started to observe just how much men wanted and unfortunately needed sex. So they started to talk with their vertical lips and persuade men to give up said power and control in exchange for poon. Men said "Hey suuure, I don't mind giving up a little of my power and control if I can dip my pee pee into her!" So it progressed, spiraled, and escalated.. The trend multiplied like roaches...... At some point in time it happened so much that it started to have negative impact on pretty much everything and shift the balance of the world..... Now, today in 2015, it's plain flat out of control, not hypothetically, but really out of control for real.. Fast forward to today.. In GENERAL, do women do their equal share around the house anymore? Do women run companies as good as men? Do women build infrastructure as good as men? Do women and men get equal treatment in court? Where will we be if Hillary or some other femc\_/nt becomes President? No..No..No..No.. screwed to the max.... Most men either are clueless about what has really happened... Or they know about it but want/need poon too much to change their ways... The only turning back now is for men to come together as a collective and put a stop to it.. Basically, boycott having sex with women until women do things on their terms again and submit and go back to old ways.. HAHAHAHA!! That's not gonna happen.. No way! It's too far gone.... What's more likelly to happen is for massive destruction of civilized society leaving no infrastructure, no government, no nothing.. And only a very minimal number of women and men left on the planet.. Back to ground zero, living off the land, drinking from streams and killing or picking what you eat. Then, only then, will women have to submit again because they wont be able to survive alone under those circumstances without help from men...
Well done. Almost sounded like it was one of Pook's stories. haha. :up:
 

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So I've got a bit of an update to this. We have a mutual friend whom I've known for almost 2 decades, and she filled me in on what's been happening...

When I fvcked this chick, the condom broke. It doesn't really bother me since I had a vasectomy, but she didn't know this. Apparently her period was late (which I find generally happens when a woman hasn't had sex in a while). She was apparently thrilled to be buying a pregnancy test, excited by the thought that she could be pregnant with my child. The test unsurprisingly came out negative.

All of this occurred while she wasn't speaking to me. Even though none of this really surprises me, I still find it amazing how a woman can be excited at the prospect of being impregnated by a guy she isn't speaking to.
Bro how are you smashing 21 yr old girls when you are way older than them. That is props. Impressive. And you got a 21 yr old obsessed with you enough that she wants to have your baby? Instead of having a hot girl summer. These days trying to get a 21 yr to have your baby and settle down is like trying to climb Mt.Everest. Trying to get a 21 yr in a relationship is hard enough. Good for you man.
 

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Well done. Almost sounded like it was one of Pook's stories. haha. :up:
I never really looked at is as as good of work as Pook, but thank you for the compliment. I really appreciate that!
 
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