Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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She talks about other guys?

tunnel

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problem 1
i've been friends with her for about a year. i told her how i feel the otha day and was rejected. i got the LJBF line.

problem 2
she keeps on talking to me about other boys, boys she fancies and so on. Shes doing it right now. How do i use this to my advantage? Is it good to be a listener in this situation?

Elti
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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cyjay201

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Originally posted by tunnel
problem 1
i've been friends with her for about a year. i told her how i feel the otha day and was rejected. i got the LJBF line.

problem 2
she keeps on talking to me about other boys, boys she fancies and so on. Shes doing it right now. How do i use this to my advantage? Is it good to be a listener in this situation?

Elti
You don't. You're her emotional tampon. Don't let her talk to you about that stuff. IF you want to be her friend, then that's fine. If not then just move on. Don't go out of your way to talk to her.
 

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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bolive they call people like you an "emotional tempon". I was there before, and it gets you nowhere really slow. Nottin you can do. Apperently once you get in that friends zone, it takes a long time to get out, if at all. I'd say stop calling her, learn as much as you can from this site, and move on to other ladies. Maybe after few months of space and NOT TALKING, you might have a chance again.
 

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When girls start continually telling you about other guys, you've been permanently put in their friend zone. :mad:

This girl's a lost cause go out and look for others! I'm sorry if that's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth.
 

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yeah i think im just gonna stop chatting to her. for a few months.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Make freinds with her. And move on.

She could always be YOUR emotional tampon :woo:
 

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Originally posted by tunnel
problem 1
i've been friends with her for about a year. i told her how i feel the otha day and was rejected. i got the LJBF line.

problem 2
she keeps on talking to me about other boys, boys she fancies and so on. Shes doing it right now. How do i use this to my advantage? Is it good to be a listener in this situation?

Elti
What we have here is a failure to put 2 and 2 together.

2: she said "Let's just be friends", which means she sees you as no different than any of her female friends except that you have different genitals.

+2: she is talking to you about other guys like she would one of her female friends

=4: you need to stop worrying about "how to use her talking about other guys to your advantage". You have NO advantage at this point. You are her "gal-pal with a pen!s".

The problem here is not that you aren't maximizing conversation...it's that you do not appear to her as a masculine, dominant male specimen suitable for romance and mating.

Getting back to the question...you can STOP wasting your time talking to her about boys she's into. It's a WASTE of your time...why are you even DOING this? Unless you WANT to be "just friends" with her.
 

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I was in the same situation Tunnel last summer. While you are looking up getting out of the friendzone, look up Gangi games. It is basically a method of breaking all connections with the girl, but not in a jerklike way, for a certain amount of time. The above responses are true, but you do have hope. It is just really, really,really,really,really hard. One factor that you need to use also jealosy. u get that by appearing to be good with the ladies in front of the girl you want with other women, in hopes of getting the girl to think twice about dumping you. It is a lot of work, and the best advice is to NEXT her.

Good Luck.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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toasttopper1879

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I've heard,maybe rightly or wrong that some girls mention other guys to stir up a bit jealousy.
Perhaps if she talks about other guys liking HER then she,s looking for a response.On the other hand if shes poining out guys that she likes then I think its fair to say shes not into you.
Maybe shes a attention seeker and just likes the idea of loads of guys being into her just to massage her ego.
Personally though she knows how you feel and as shes told you that all she wants is to be your friend then I think thats all she'll want.You'll have more chance winning the lottery than winning this lass I think.Move on mate,not easy but you got to.
 
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